May 2021
@The7O2Guy There is nothing wrong with an abandon penalty in and of itself. It's how it is currently being applied to punish people who are not really doing anything wrong. And honestly I don't mind when someone rage quits. I would prefer them out of my lobby. Most of the time playing with that person turns into a major pain for me and I mute them or they have this phase of marking every enemy/respawn beacon near them and drowning out all the other noises from the game. I feel like they are more of a disadvantage at that point, other than being a distraction, or bullet sponge. Forcing someone to stay in a game isn't necessarily the best fix. Now being afk or intentionally causing a loss, that is different for me. I get banning people for that.
Also I wholeheartedly agree with the reputations system. I think it would be a nice level of touch that would help the player base. It would just require a fine hand in making it.
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@VilethanatosThere should be a bigger abandon penalty for the 1st quitter of a team since he is responsible for disadvantaging them bigly. Then you can still make a quick 2 rounds so you lose quick no need to quit you can even win 2v3. The 2nd quitter would get a smaller abandon penalty and the 3rd would get no penalty for leaving.
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@Palette24carats I honestly can't really agree to that unless the programing takes into consideration people that are throwing. Most players are pushing for a more SBMM approach to arenas. If that ends up being the case yes, you can 2v3, but against players consistently of your skill level that becomes much more difficult. I would even say for the average players that becomes something that would feel unwinnable. Plus I don't think it's right to subject the player to forced losses on the account of poor playmanship because of other players.
I wouldn't feel I have the right to subject other players to forcefully take an L with me under such circumstances if they don't want to.
An example for me is actually the first game I had in the Arena this morning. I had one player go afk, because he pushed by himself in a crazy way and the other teammate and I were further back. He died, got upset and left us. We lost the second match, and then on the third my last remaining teammate went down and was then finished off and the left the match, with our wonderful wraith just standing afk in the back. I played until they got me. By that reasoning the wrath who was afk would have gotten no punishment but the other players who was rightfully frustrated and done with the match would have gotten a severe penalty.
May 2021
These are also only norms not ranked arenas at the moment, there is zero reason to apply bans. You literally get masters vs silvers and theres nothing that can be done. You basically made a game mode thats impossible to play because of whoevers choice it was to use small servers instead of super servers and for w/e reason not instituting any form of mmr match making for non rank game modes. If you want norms to stay random thats COMPLETELY FINE but you cannot subject people to play something, waiste their time, in a game that is unplayable by one way or anthor (ex: masters vs bronze, leavers, afkers, griefer, etc). Because than they get a ban, and than they leave. You want to effectively start killing your game? Give players a reason to open something else. Need an example of how it happens? Literally look at overwatch and how their poor queueing system made people leave that game. Thank a 5+ minute dps queue timer is long? a definate 10+min leaver on a NORMAL not even ranked very much will cause people to just leave the game.
May 2021
@Deadcontent2 Agreed. The practices they are already putting in place have me bothered and led to why I made this post. I never do this, but I do enjoy Apex and have concerns about how they are pushing this forward.
May 2021
May 2021
I agree that the arena penalty is ruining the experience. Two specific examples from today:
I am first to chose my character and pick Bloodhound, my main. The third person leaves his curson on bloodhound the whole time and then gets horizon randomly. He then proceededs to stand in lava with no gear and die each match. There is zero chance of winning this match, but I cant leave or be locked out for 10 minutes.
my first match my teamates run in two different directions. i say come on guys, lets stick together.... an then an adolescent foul mouthed girl screams profanities for the remaining matches and stops playing. Again, I can’t leave, and I have no chance of success in this match...
I really enjoy arenas, but at this point Im just back to battle royal. If you want to make a penalty, then make the lockout just for arenas... in this situation, i’ll go back to battle royal for a while instead of putting up with these toxic players
May 2021
May 2021
@JonasDumac I mean friends first lol. But also a lot of the people I play with and have as friends now started out as randoms. Lol I wouldn't knock all of them haha.
May 2021
@MilesDarkside Those are worse than what's happened to me lol. That is rough. I am hoping since so many people are having these experiences they take another approach to things.