Nerf Energy Weapons! [ Edited ]

[PhaserA2]

Insta dead with golden armor when fighting against Devotion???

Reduce the damage dealt by energy weapons, increase the bullet capacity to 80 and increase the ammo finding to 1:1:1 ratio for all type.

Way too much damage done by devotion and havoc.

Havoc early game is way too OP. Devotion? it just makes a GOD out of a noob that sprays and prays. 3 energy bullets with devotion and you end up with less than 80 hp on a golden armor.

Energy weapons are extremely bad balanced.

Maybe fix bugs and adjust things to make the game fair before you think of S2.

EA_Blueberry: Removed ALL CAPS from title

[EA_Blueberry]

We've seen a lot of feedback lately in here forums with the community leaning towards a nerf for both energy weapons. We'll make sure the team is aware of situations like what you mentioned where these weapons feel too powerful. 

Thanks for sharing! 

[Subtle_Tactics]

Gold armor is basically purple armor with just an added bonus, it doesn't make you absorb more damage, energy weapons are quite balanced as it is mainly for the fact that they charge up slow until you find a turbocharger but that is gold tier loot so you don't find that as often, learn to take the L and just play the game.

[AdmiralTwitchy]

The fact that they even buffed the Havoc to give it more ammo when it wasnt needed proves they have no idea what they are doing or how to balance a video game. Its sad

[251f7fe71fbb9e08]

Leave the energy weapons alone they are quite balanced. They take time to charge and have significant recoil. It is not the gune but the good players that are killing you with energy weapons.

I will pick up a Havok if I find one and don't have anything better but if I don't find a turbocharger and I see a Spitfire I will drop a Havox for the Spitfire.

If you spray and pray with a Devotion your not killing anyone because your not landing 80% of your rounds.

[nooblet123]

Devotion is fine. It has a long charge up time and its damage per shot is relatively low, it just burns through ammo super fast. Very hard to sustain, which is why you virtually never see anyone using it after the first 3 minutes of a match.

Havoc does feel a bit too powerful right now imo, because it has far less charge up time than devotion, deals high damage per shot and on top of that they gave it the largest magazine of all assault rifles, without even needing to pick up an extended mag for it.

But there's absolutely no "spray and pray". If you want to kill people with these things you have to aim just like with every other weapon. If you're just "spraying" you'll miss most of your shots and deal barely any damage. If anything, because of the charge-up time, these weapons are less noob friendly than others, not more.

[Rouhgg]

Havoc is a spray and pray gun. You can jump around with it spraying and you will still hit shots. That gun is overpowered for close and mid range . Its only weak on long range but. It needs a damage nerf and seperate magazine to upgrade the clip size like all other guns

[Vitamin_Arrr]

> We've seen a lot of feedback lately in here forums with the community leaning towards a nerf for both energy weapons. We'll make sure the team is aware of situations like what you mentioned where these weapons feel too powerful. 

The people who have been posting on this forum DO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY. They are a tiny minority who always ruin every game they play by manipulating the developers into making changes that are conducive to improving the odds of their favorite playstyle winning. 

Please STOP BEING INFLUENCED BY WHINERS ON THESE FORUMS. Stop making game changes and nerfs due to their irrational complaints.

[ArchNemesis1979]

Where were you when they nerfed the crap out of the Spitfire? Oh right, your favorite op guns AFTER that nerf comes under scrutiny and you cry foul smh. I rock the Havoc and Devotion and I'll even admit it needs to be toned down a bit to be in line with the Heavy and Light guns. They don't need something as drastic as to what happened to the spitfire nor does the Havoc and Devotion need to be rendered useless either. 

FPS games since the dawn of genre have undergone tweaks to make set weapons rationally viable without having a "one gun trumps all" effect that literally kills FPS games that allow op guns left unchecked.

Guns no matter what should in general produce near same damage with alterations to how fast they shoot, recoil, reload times, sway, etc.. to make each gun exceptional on it's own like real life guns are. Damage should be the same for every weapon in Apex but they should focus on what makes these weapons "Handle" different rather then nerfing or buffing damage out put per bullet. Quite a few games in the past have absolutely NAILED weapon balancing! One of the last games that come to mind for great gun balance was Doom a few years ago.

[chiefthunderball]

The havoc is fine, the recoil is hard for a inexperienced player to handle. The devotion is a killer though. High damage, big mag and semi stable it's weight. The spool up isn't even a factor, if the enemy misses a few shots and needs to reload you can drop them before they can stick that next mag in.