November 2022
So it’s very clear that the apex developers want the P2020 to be the worst gun in the game — they’ve stated it numerous times on various discussions. And now, in season 15, they’ve even removed hammerpoints, further cementing its place at the bottom. However, I believe this is very unhealthy for the game, and adding to why players never pick up pistols:
The idea both players and devs have for the P2020, or the Peashooter, as players lovingly call it, is that it’s what you pick up on drop to take early fights and get rid of as soon as you find a better gun. It’s an early game only gun. But there’s a problem with this idea; what are you more likely to find on drop, just a P2020, or one of the 23 other guns in ground loot rotation? There should be no such thing as an “early game only” gun, because every gun is an early game gun. There’s just no point to have a gun so substantially underpowered when every gun is equally likely to be picked up and used throughout the entire game. The P2020 should be just as viable as any other gun is across the mid and late stages of the match.
How to fix? Damage buff, and headshot critical increase. Many people suggest increasing base damage anywhere from the current 18 to somewhere between 19 and 22. I think 20 is a safe and deserving middle ground. Base headshot damage I think can be buffed from 27 to 30, to add more value to good accuracy. Keeping in line with that idea, I think we can keep the current 16 damage on limbs, to punish inaccuracy. This I believe creates a more effective weapon, with a unique function. And bring back hammerpoints, of course. No reason for that to be removed.
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@ThisIsYourMomentMost games have 'weak' guns that only offer usability early game, when half the lobby landed on a bin with a Purple Stock and 2 stacks of Shotgun shells you'd rather have a P2020 than try your luck with meele. Just take pistols on MW for instance.
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I have to disagree.... if Respawn wanted it to be the worst gun in the game, how come in this new season, especially on BM I find more P20's than any other gun in the game?
In some buildings I have found 5 of them on the floor loot, with not another single weapon. This has been norm for me since Bowel Movement dropped. Only other guaranteed loot is energy and shotties.
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@AngstyCoder Yes, but you also find other guns almost just as quickly. Of course you’d rather have a pistol on drop compared to nothing. But you’d also rather have anything else compared to a pistol too. Even in early game fights, you might not even use it at all, because of the likelihood to find another gun and switch it out instantly. So it really doesn’t serve a purpose, not even early game, because of how quickly it’s switched out. I’m saying this is an unhealthy view of how pistols should function in any BR game. I think pistols should serve a more useful function than just an early game weapon you drop as soon as possible. I think it should hold its value as the true sidearm that it’s supposed to be. I don’t play Warzone that much, but at least in the COD multiplayer, my highest kill gun is the M19 pistol on my sniper class. It has value in multiplayer, as I think the P2020 should in apex too. It’s lacking right now, and that’s what I think should change. See my above comment too
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This is where the Re45 was viable. IMO
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