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Re: Save Issues after Patch 1.30.103

by SimGuruNick
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Ah, sorry I didn't notice the original thread!

 

There is absolutely NO DOUBT that "Save As" is overwriting old save files unrelated to the name you type in - at least in my game. Did some more testing to verify:


Saved file as "AW3 Climbing Wall". Overwrote slot_00000002, originally "02 First Day".

Re-saved file as "AW3 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly in slot_00000179.

 

Saved file as "AW4 Climbing Wall". Overwrote slot_00000005, originally "93 Lkr Rm Atndnt".

Re-saved file as "AW4 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly in slot_00000182.

 

Saved file as "AW5 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly in slot_000001aa.

 

Saved file as "AW6 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly in slot_000001ac.

 

Saved file as "AW7 Climbing Wall". Overwrote slot_000001ad, originally "AH1 Six Skulls".

Re-saved file as "AW7 Climbing Wall". Overwrote slot_000001af, originally "AD1 Great Party!".

Re-saved file as "AW7 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly as slot_000001b2.

 

Saved file as "AW8 Climbing Wall". Overwrote slot_000001b5, originally "AD2 Dance Party!".

Re-saved file as "AW8 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly as slot_000001c0.

 

Restored overwritten files and then locked all files in the Saves directory as read-only. This did not crash the game as I suspected it would - but it also did not work.

 

Saved file as "AW9 Climbing Wall". Overwrote slot_000001c6, originally "AH8 Pioneer Tech".

Re-saved file as "AW9 Climbing Wall". Saved correctly as slot_000001ca.

 

It looks to me very much like Sims4 is using an internal DB or looking at an external file that tracks which slot names have been used previously. It appears that it is losing track of which slot names are *available* and therefor overwriting live files.

 

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One more thing: I wonder if this problem might be related to the *number* of save files. I have 533 save files, 2,196 if you count the backups also.

 

I should think with an 8-digit hex code for a filename you wouldn't expect overwrite problems until you get past the 65,000 save file level. Still, it might be why some people see this issue and others don't.

 

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Hero

Do you really need all of them in your saves folder ? You could just backup them somewhere else

Happy Gaming
Crin


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Sure, I've thought of moving all but the most recent saves somewhere else - and I may still do that if this issue isn't definitively solved pretty soon.That's the way I do it in Sims 3, actually.

 

The reason I haven't yet is because that would make it more complicated if I ever needed to restore a backup game, since Sims 4 appears to look for the first "open" slot and use that filename - I would have duplicate filenames with different backup saves.

 

One more thing to report also:

 

I read a suggestion somewhere online regarding this problem, to delete the localthumbcache.package and let the game regenerate it. I did that and I have not had this issue occur since.

6/26/17. Saved file "AX0 Current" (slot_000001d5) with no problem.

6/27/17. Saved file "AX1 Current" (slot_000001d8) with no problem.

6/28/17. Saved file "AX2 Current" (slot_000001df) with no problem.

 

I can't say for *certain* that solved the problem - but I think it can't hurt if anyone else is having this issue, or just good general practice to clear out accumulated junk in that file.

 

I will continue to watch and test! Thanks so much for everyone's help and input - especially Crinrict!

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Hero

Thank you for that suggestion

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Crin


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Hero

Tagging @joshlaura03 @Mindydog09 @ilovesims335 @NZsimm3r to see if the issue is still happening for you guys ? Anyone tried to delete the localthumb file as @JasonVega2 suggested ?

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And if anyone's still having the issue, could you possibly share your entire TS4 folder with me? Thanks much! Standard smile

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I always delete the localthumbcache.package file after every play session so doing this does not effect how the new save system works. As I pointed out in this thread: http://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/forum/index.php?topic=28551.0   the issue is with the design, not the individual players games. In a nutshell, using 'save' can save over your last played game. If this is NOT the same as the game you are currently playing then the previously played game gets copied/saved over. Design fault, not user error I believe.

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@NZsimm3ris correct. I haven't played for a few days and my first attempt to save is repeating this issue with a vengeance.

 

I cannot save my current game at all, now.

 

It keeps alternately overwriting two files: It overwrites Slot_000001cf.save "AX0 Current", then overwrites Slot_000001d1.save "AK5 Halloween", then back. It keeps alternately overwriting these same two files - and I have tried to save my game 10 times.

 

The "AX0 Current" game save is one of the newer type - so that proves that it's not just overwriting *older* saves from before the saving methodology was changed.

 

I would be happy to share my entire directory with you @SimGuruNick, but I have no idea how. It is 63G uncompressed.

 

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EA Sims Team

Haha okay maybe I don't need the entire thing then, that's pretty huge. Could you send me just your save folder potentially? Or just your last few saves if that's still too big? Could you also give me an idea of how many files you have in your Mods folder, your Tray folder, your Screenshots folder, and your Recorded Videos folder? 

 

Here's instructions: http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4-Bug-Reports/INFORMATION-How-to-Send-User-Files-to-The-Sims-4-Tea...

 

Thanks much for all the help! 

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