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Re: Tourists Drop to 0 after 2.0 Patch

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Re: Tourists Drop to 0 after 2.0 Patch

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I think the problem happens when you have more than 1 casino. Either way there's a serious problem with the number dropping after a little bit of play. Seems as tho the agents time out or don't ever return to the casino once they've gone already. You'd think Maxis and EA would be smart enough to see this but apparently they play the game for 5 minutes and say "fixed!"

 

ugh

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Re: Tourists Drop to 0 after 2.0 Patch

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HOTELS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT....

 

I clicked on the data map for tourism. I proceded to bulldoze EVERY SINGLE HOTEL that I saw.

 

3 minutes later my tourists went from 176 BOOM to 4889. city previously had remained utterl broken at 176 tourists for about 3-4 hours of gameplay. But when i tried this they rushed to my city....

 

Try this and PLZ tell me what happens!

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so ya 20 minutes later they all left now i have 40,000 (exxageration) taxies that havent moved in 4 game days in gridlock game is amazing

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I had to put a second bus terminal up then everything recovered for mine.  You might consider the traffic as the biggest 'disaster' in the game...tornadoes and lizards got nothin on it!

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@Axius105 wrote:

HOTELS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT....

 

I clicked on the data map for tourism. I proceded to bulldoze EVERY SINGLE HOTEL that I saw.

 

3 minutes later my tourists went from 176 BOOM to 4889. city previously had remained utterl broken at 176 tourists for about 3-4 hours of gameplay. But when i tried this they rushed to my city....

 

Try this and PLZ tell me what happens!


Yep, hotels is the key.  You need shops to attract tourists, but when you attract lots of tourists your shops turn into hotels.  Hotels do not count for your tourist cap and then you stop getting new tourists.  Hotels are more of a curse than a help with tourism.  It is quicker and easier to get people in to your town and out of your town through cruise ships, airport, railroad, and highway than it is to get them to and from the hotels.  If you want to make a tourism town, build up your shopping before you add any tourism, then dezone all of your commercial so it won't turn into hotels.  After that you can build your tourist attractions and they should do fine, probably way better than they do now.  I think I might actually try out making a tourist town without any hotels and compare it to my town with hotels.  I have a hunch the town without hotels is going to have a much greater profit.

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Tourism is a big mystery.   Something is buggy with it.

 

Pre-patch, I built up a new region with space center.  Built new city for tourism and post-2.0 patch I started to deploy casinos.   With a couple sleek casinos, expo center, empire state building, statue of liberty and one other tourist attraction, I couldn't break 3900 tourists per day.    The city is mainly low wealth residents/commercial and I don't get a single low wealth tourist.   All tourists are medium with splattering of high wealth.    I have a 92% approval rate, so the city is good.  No traffic.  Managed well.   I'm in year 10 of the city and I finally gave up.

 

I started new region with goal of doing casinos again, I'm half way through supplying international airport in my oil/mining town and I accidentially clicked on the tourism layer, I was getting 4000+ tourists per day without a single tourist attraction.  This doesn't make sense.

 

 

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My tourists havent gone as far down as 0 but i went from having 8k a day to 200 a day over a 3 day span and they never come back now. No big changes happened to my city. Its the exact same problem i was having before patch 2.0. They broke a lot more than they fixed its so aggravating. 

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I think it would really help if only hotels are built around a certain radius of a casino / attraction.  The intended mechanic is that they spend their simoleans one day,  stay overnight in a hotel, then spend their remainder the next day, then they leave.   Clearly, if the hotels are all over the place,  they'll struggle to get back to the attractions since they wont be consistently on the route to any specific place.  They'll then leave and it seems, never come back.

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Inert there is a way to fix that problem. Well not exactly fix but more to avoid it. If shops turn into hotels in your residential areas this is what you do. 

 

1. Bulldoze Shop

2. Wait for shop to begin construction

3. As soon as the base of the shop is there dezone the C zone for the shop (hotel/motel bases look much different than shop bases easy to differentiate)

 

After the shop rebuilds itll stay a shop and wont turn into a hotel again. You can also do this to make sure hotels stay hotels even though thats not really something that you need to do that often. That should help anyone with the hotel problems. Figured that out one day just screwing around cause my city was destroyed by bugs lol. 

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I built a new City with the intention of trying this Dezoning method.

 

I now have 2989 tourists in my city... i dont have ANY in my casino's NONE in my 3 Tourist attractions. for days now....on the data map using the camera icon to see tourists i cant see them anywhere in my city....

 

After Reloading and waiting 4-5 days (game time) my casino's were finally filling up and making 10k per hour but all the DAILY profit would never change and always showed up as -37k even as the day swapped over and I would get my Monthly report.

 

Daily wont change even though i would be making 250k from the casino's it would still show as daily profit of -37k. Then right as the daily profit starts adjusting and refreshing... all my tourists vanish again (see above) but still show as being in the city.

 

Patch 2.0 gave us 6 modules for casino's, and reportedly modified the behavior of tourists to make them more consistent attendee's. After 25 hours of game play post-patch ... I CANNOT find any evidence of any improvement in the Tourism AI. It remains the same only now we have bigger EMPTY casino's

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