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Re: You can't Saber Attack immediately after Dodging anymore

@RogueZeroRendar 

Are you sure you want to play this game?

 

You like to dissect the words of others to what we can see, it shouldn’t bother you if we do the same with you: “half baked answers”, this is your point of view and I am curiously awaiting your arguments; “portrays yourself as a pro player to verify your claims”, I didn’t know that the desire to give advice to players was the same as the desire to portray an expert player, and moreover for a purpose to reinforce claims, unless there again you give your personal opinion without adding a single argument; “because you said you'd run away from the discussion you think people will just go on with your nonsense quietly”, the people concerned in no way tried to argue for their opinion if they had one, they simply decided to tag me and then inconsistently refute what I say, these are two very different things which make that there is no discussion and therefore no discussion to flee, simply a waste of time to avoid; “not just a matter of the possibility of you changing your mind”, thank you for your humble solicitude; “but especially for the bypassers that see this discussion and should have a proper ending to it, unlike you gave them”, it seems that there was nothing humble and no solicitude on your part in the end, you reveal awkwardly your real objective and your pretension to want to place you as a knight savior of this topic. I could go on, I only made one of your paragraphs, but I'm going to stop there because although fun it is exhausting to play your dissection game.

 

You seem to be familiar with specific terms: "Deception Arts" and "Argument of Authority". By no means do you seem to know what you're talking about. Are you aware that to designate me as using an argument from authority without explaining what it is or to quote me is in itself an argument from authority? You designate one of my arguments as belonging to a category without explanation about why its content could be a fallacy, hoping that we will be satisfied with it: this is the definition of an argument from authority. But the funniest thing is to see you confuse simple absurd reasoning with deceptive rhetoric. It was just a matter of disregarding everything I had said and commenting on what was left on this topic in order to highlight how pointless this topic is. The most interesting thing comes right after, when you finally decide to argue: you decide to take my words at face value in order to lean on them. The height is that this practice is for once a real art of deception with the aim of discrediting the other indirectly. You even want to add an example when talking about my exchanges with VetteC5RX. You are at least aware that I was trying to put an end to his misunderstandings concerning the functioning of the game in order to try to avoid that he strayed further from the subject, right? Because if not, you are focusing on something that you could also be credited with when you answer me, for example. I now understand why you’re familiar with these terms, people may have already used them when talking about your rhetoric.

 

Also, it's curious but you don't seem to bear the fact that I mention you without speaking to you. I was speaking to other readers. You don’t need to react that badly to the fact you’re not the center of the world since nobody is.

 

I hope I won’t be too rude but basically the only thing that you display know how to do, as much with your own experiences as with others, is to take point by point elements without thinking about the whole thing. Without reflection or spirit of synthesis. With Battlefront 2 as with people who don't share your opinion, you're looking to take out what doesn't work for you rather than figuring out how you could deal with it. The saddest thing is that if your comfort of life is acquired when all the “BUG” that get in your way are eradicated, it is impossible to obtain it on a world scale then you are comforting yourself with what you can delimit: video games, other people's words, and I don't know what other thematics.

 

Let’s take things down to earth, you know that, speaking one last time about the dodge+attack mechanics. Since I am lying, that I am not testing anything and that I know nothing about console joysticks (I am ironic, I must say this to avoid making you plunge back into your faults), it is true that there is no risk of losing responsiveness and 1/10 of efficiency in having to keep a key pressed with a finger, and no risk of losing precision when you have a strategy in mind and that you frantically spam a key after almost all the dodges you need to do in a lightsaber fight. The old method was indeed much more risky with its queue system. And then it is ridiculous to think that training to press the attack button once at the right time just after a dodge is the least risky and also ridiculous to say that the only thing to consider is that it requires more skill than before (now I won't be ironic anymore). Having to release the direction button only affects the display of the dodge+attack animation, but the result in the fight is the same.

 

To conclude, in reaction to your penultimate paragraph filled with observations put end to end which remain without conclusion, there are only two changes: the dodge+attack no longer benefits from the queue mechanics and it’s now necessary to release the direction key during the dodge+attack to display the specific animation. The first modification only has the effect of adding skill to lightsaber fights and the second only concerns a partially resolved visual aspect. This conclusion is bizarrely in line with the various things that I defended in my posts.

 

You only see a feature that has a bug and not a feature that has evolved positively. It’s clear that this topic will forever make sense to you so I leave it to you. I have no time to waste looking back. I leave you to your umpteenth analysis of what I can say with this message.

 

Without ulterior motives, nor irony, nor bad faith, and because basically I have nothing against you, may the Force be with you in these difficult times.

2 Replies

  • Despite some clear attempt to hijack this report, devs knew better and finally fixed this issue for good. Dash Attacks are now back to their former glory. An honest thank you from a dedicated Day 1 player and bughunter!

  • Spiteforge's avatar
    Spiteforge
    6 years ago

    Wait, THIS is why dashing and attacking was always so terrible and is now suddenly smooth?

    Damn, this update just keeps delivering.

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@RogueZeroRendar 

Are you sure you want to play this game?

 

You like to dissect the words of others to what we can see, it shouldn’t bother you if we do the same with you: “half baked answers”, this is your point of view and I am curiously awaiting your arguments; “portrays yourself as a pro player to verify your claims”, I didn’t know that the desire to give advice to players was the same as the desire to portray an expert player, and moreover for a purpose to reinforce claims, unless there again you give your personal opinion without adding a single argument; “because you said you'd run away from the discussion you think people will just go on with your nonsense quietly”, the people concerned in no way tried to argue for their opinion if they had one, they simply decided to tag me and then inconsistently refute what I say, these are two very different things which make that there is no discussion and therefore no discussion to flee, simply a waste of time to avoid; “not just a matter of the possibility of you changing your mind”, thank you for your humble solicitude; “but especially for the bypassers that see this discussion and should have a proper ending to it, unlike you gave them”, it seems that there was nothing humble and no solicitude on your part in the end, you reveal awkwardly your real objective and your pretension to want to place you as a knight savior of this topic. I could go on, I only made one of your paragraphs, but I'm going to stop there because although fun it is exhausting to play your dissection game.

 

You seem to be familiar with specific terms: \"Deception Arts\" and \"Argument of Authority\". By no means do you seem to know what you're talking about. Are you aware that to designate me as using an argument from authority without explaining what it is or to quote me is in itself an argument from authority? You designate one of my arguments as belonging to a category without explanation about why its content could be a fallacy, hoping that we will be satisfied with it: this is the definition of an argument from authority. But the funniest thing is to see you confuse simple absurd reasoning with deceptive rhetoric. It was just a matter of disregarding everything I had said and commenting on what was left on this topic in order to highlight how pointless this topic is. The most interesting thing comes right after, when you finally decide to argue: you decide to take my words at face value in order to lean on them. The height is that this practice is for once a real art of deception with the aim of discrediting the other indirectly. You even want to add an example when talking about my exchanges with VetteC5RX. You are at least aware that I was trying to put an end to his misunderstandings concerning the functioning of the game in order to try to avoid that he strayed further from the subject, right? Because if not, you are focusing on something that you could also be credited with when you answer me, for example. I now understand why you’re familiar with these terms, people may have already used them when talking about your rhetoric.

 

Also, it's curious but you don't seem to bear the fact that I mention you without speaking to you. I was speaking to other readers. You don’t need to react that badly to the fact you’re not the center of the world since nobody is.

 

I hope I won’t be too rude but basically the only thing that you display know how to do, as much with your own experiences as with others, is to take point by point elements without thinking about the whole thing. Without reflection or spirit of synthesis. With Battlefront 2 as with people who don't share your opinion, you're looking to take out what doesn't work for you rather than figuring out how you could deal with it. The saddest thing is that if your comfort of life is acquired when all the “BUG” that get in your way are eradicated, it is impossible to obtain it on a world scale then you are comforting yourself with what you can delimit: video games, other people's words, and I don't know what other thematics.

 

Let’s take things down to earth, you know that, speaking one last time about the dodge+attack mechanics. Since I am lying, that I am not testing anything and that I know nothing about console joysticks (I am ironic, I must say this to avoid making you plunge back into your faults), it is true that there is no risk of losing responsiveness and 1/10 of efficiency in having to keep a key pressed with a finger, and no risk of losing precision when you have a strategy in mind and that you frantically spam a key after almost all the dodges you need to do in a lightsaber fight. The old method was indeed much more risky with its queue system. And then it is ridiculous to think that training to press the attack button once at the right time just after a dodge is the least risky and also ridiculous to say that the only thing to consider is that it requires more skill than before (now I won't be ironic anymore). Having to release the direction button only affects the display of the dodge+attack animation, but the result in the fight is the same.

 

To conclude, in reaction to your penultimate paragraph filled with observations put end to end which remain without conclusion, there are only two changes: the dodge+attack no longer benefits from the queue mechanics and it’s now necessary to release the direction key during the dodge+attack to display the specific animation. The first modification only has the effect of adding skill to lightsaber fights and the second only concerns a partially resolved visual aspect. This conclusion is bizarrely in line with the various things that I defended in my posts.

 

You only see a feature that has a bug and not a feature that has evolved positively. It’s clear that this topic will forever make sense to you so I leave it to you. I have no time to waste looking back. I leave you to your umpteenth analysis of what I can say with this message.

 

Without ulterior motives, nor irony, nor bad faith, and because basically I have nothing against you, may the Force be with you in these difficult times.

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@RogueZeroRendar 

Are you sure you want to play this game?

 

You like to dissect the words of others to what we can see, it shouldn’t bother you if we do the same with you: “half baked answers”, this is your point of view and I am curiously awaiting your arguments; “portrays yourself as a pro player to verify your claims”, I didn’t know that the desire to give advice to players was the same as the desire to portray an expert player, and moreover for a purpose to reinforce claims, unless there again you give your personal opinion without adding a single argument; “because you said you'd run away from the discussion you think people will just go on with your nonsense quietly”, the people concerned in no way tried to argue for their opinion if they had one, they simply decided to tag me and then inconsistently refute what I say, these are two very different things which make that there is no discussion and therefore no discussion to flee, simply a waste of time to avoid; “not just a matter of the possibility of you changing your mind”, thank you for your humble solicitude; “but especially for the bypassers that see this discussion and should have a proper ending to it, unlike you gave them”, it seems that there was nothing humble and no solicitude on your part in the end, you reveal awkwardly your real objective and your pretension to want to place you as a knight savior of this topic. I could go on, I only made one of your paragraphs, but I'm going to stop there because although fun it is exhausting to play your dissection game.

 

You seem to be familiar with specific terms: \"Deception Arts\" and \"Argument of Authority\". By no means do you seem to know what you're talking about. Are you aware that to designate me as using an argument from authority without explaining what it is or to quote me is in itself an argument from authority? You designate one of my arguments as belonging to a category without explanation about why its content could be a fallacy, hoping that we will be satisfied with it: this is the definition of an argument from authority. But the funniest thing is to see you confuse simple absurd reasoning with deceptive rhetoric. It was just a matter of disregarding everything I had said and commenting on what was left on this topic in order to highlight how pointless this topic is. The most interesting thing comes right after, when you finally decide to argue: you decide to take my words at face value in order to lean on them. The height is that this practice is for once a real art of deception with the aim of discrediting the other indirectly. You even want to add an example when talking about my exchanges with VetteC5RX. You are at least aware that I was trying to put an end to his misunderstandings concerning the functioning of the game in order to try to avoid that he strayed further from the subject, right? Because if not, you are focusing on something that you could also be credited with when you answer me, for example. I now understand why you’re familiar with these terms, people may have already used them when talking about your rhetoric.

 

Also, it's curious but you don't seem to bear the fact that I mention you without speaking to you. I was speaking to other readers. You don’t need to react that badly to the fact you’re not the center of the world since nobody is.

 

I hope I won’t be too rude but basically the only thing that you display know how to do, as much with your own experiences as with others, is to take point by point elements without thinking about the whole thing. Without reflection or spirit of synthesis. With Battlefront 2 as with people who don't share your opinion, you're looking to take out what doesn't work for you rather than figuring out how you could deal with it. The saddest thing is that if your comfort of life is acquired when all the “BUG” that get in your way are eradicated, it is impossible to obtain it on a world scale then you are comforting yourself with what you can delimit: video games, other people's words, and I don't know what other thematics.

 

Let’s take things down to earth, you know that, speaking one last time about the dodge+attack mechanics. Since I am lying, that I am not testing anything and that I know nothing about console joysticks (I am ironic, I must say this to avoid making you plunge back into your faults), it is true that there is no risk of losing responsiveness and 1/10 of efficiency in having to keep a key pressed with a finger, and no risk of losing precision when you have a strategy in mind and that you frantically spam a key after almost all the dodges you need to do in a lightsaber fight. The old method was indeed much more risky with its queue system. And then it is ridiculous to think that training to press the attack button once at the right time just after a dodge is the least risky and also ridiculous to say that the only thing to consider is that it requires more skill than before (now I won't be ironic anymore). Having to release the direction button only affects the display of the dodge+attack animation, but the result in the fight is the same.

 

To conclude, in reaction to your penultimate paragraph filled with observations put end to end which remain without conclusion, there are only two changes: the dodge+attack no longer benefits from the queue mechanics and it’s now necessary to release the direction key during the dodge+attack to display the specific animation. The first modification only has the effect of adding skill to lightsaber fights and the second only concerns a partially resolved visual aspect. This conclusion is bizarrely in line with the various things that I defended in my posts.

 

You only see a feature that has a bug and not a feature that has evolved positively. It’s clear that this topic will forever make sense to you so I leave it to you. I have no time to waste looking back. I leave you to your umpteenth analysis of what I can say with this message.

 

Without ulterior motives, nor irony, nor bad faith, and because basically I have nothing against you, may the Force be with you in these difficult times.

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