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Re: Vampire Sims/Family Missing

@LlonessRampant  Which packs are you missing?  Does the EA App think they're owned and installed?  You can check in your game library, under Sims 4 > Manage > Manage add-ons.

Please also let me know whether any of your owned packs are in fact loading in-game.  To see what is and isn't loading, try filtering CAS or Build/Buy by pack.  The ones that aren't installed will be unselectable.

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@LlonessRampant  Which packs are you missing?  Does the EA App think they're owned and installed?  You can check in your game library, under Sims 4 > Manage > Manage add-ons.

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Please also let me know whether any of your owned packs are in fact loading in-game.  To see what is and isn't loading, try filtering CAS or Build/Buy by pack.  The ones that aren't installed will be unselectable.

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@LlonessRampant  Which packs are you missing?  Does the EA App think they're owned and installed?  You can check in your game library, under Sims 4 > Manage > Manage add-ons.

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Please also let me know whether any of your owned packs are in fact loading in-game.  To see what is and isn't loading, try filtering CAS or Build/Buy by pack.  The ones that aren't installed will be unselectable.

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Everything seems to be loading just two ofy families I was playing have the vampire sims missing. I uninstalled everything and reinstalled again, it's recognizing all of my packs but I can't get my missing sims back. The house is in the vampire town and nothing else she's to be glitching. I can see the missing sims in the family selection before I load the house but once it loads they're all missing and aren't in the relationship profile any longer. Since one toddler that was left behind is human I can see the vampire mom in the family tree but all the others don't show up. ResetSim can't locate them either 

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@LlonessRampant  Try recovering one of the backup saves.  You might have to go a few versions back.

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https://sims4.crinrict.com/eng/2014/09/recover-backup-save-game/

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I've tried with no luck, they're still missing even from days ago. I appreciate the effort! 

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@LlonessRampant  Does it help to evict the household and place them back in their house, or a different one?

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Other than that, are you willing to use a mod to try to fix this?  I don't know for sure that it would help, but there are certainly ways to experiment.

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No, moving them doesn't help - even if the photo/household shows all of them when I go into play (no matter where) they're missing still, I even tried different neighborhoods with no luck. 

I would try mods if it's easy to figure out. What might work?

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Do you have other vamps in your save game and they are fine or did all of them disappear ?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"111","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2024-09-21T04:27:40.561-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2024-09-21T04:27:40.561-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":860},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-mods-and-custom-content-en/message:9296742/message:9296749","repliesCount":11,"readOnly":false,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:9296750":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:9296750","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:9296750":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:82978"},"id":"message:9296750","revisionNum":1,"uid":9296750,"depth":8,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-mods-and-custom-content-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:9296749"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:9296742"},"subject":"Re: Vampire Sims/Family Missing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:9296750"},"body":"

I believe all of them are missing, I haven't checked every single family yet but the other family (across the street) is missing their vamps as well

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just discovered all my vampire sims are missing as well. like they've just disappeared ☹️

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Ugh sorry to hear it, I haven't been able to recover mine. Some in another town are still present though. My game is having serious issues now (not loading after saves or going on a date). After my vamps went missing and I was having problems I did buy the newest expansion and wonder if those are my new problems now. 

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That mod is outdated and seems to cause issues with occults being removed from saves.

Once they are removed and you saved, all you can do is to revert to an older save game.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2024-09-23T02:49:54.190-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2024-09-23T02:49:54.190-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":412},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-mods-and-custom-content-en/message:9296742/message:9296753","repliesCount":2,"readOnly":false,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:9296754":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:9296754","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:9296754":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:82978"},"id":"message:9296754","revisionNum":1,"uid":9296754,"depth":12,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-mods-and-custom-content-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:9296753"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:9296742"},"subject":"Re: Vampire Sims/Family Missing","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:9296754"},"body":"

No, I did have one where some sims could be multiple occults and I think maybe the two sims missing had been vampire and spellcaster at one point so maybe that's it and their vampire babies were then corrupted too? I have since been clearing out all my mods and trying to start fresh within the same world. Thanks for your input!

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@LlonessRampant Being multiple occults is possible only with mods. See Broken/Updated Mods & CC for the one from TwelfthDoctor1 that's been updated for causing this error, and be sure to read the new instructions for it.

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@323af1ac091672d9 Disappearing Vampires is caused by an outdated hybrid occult mod. See Broken/Updated Mods & CC for the one from TwelfthDoctor1 that's been updated for causing this error, and be sure to read the new instructions for it. 

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Thank you~ I use it so infrequently in game that I hadn't thought about it. I'll dig into the link you sent. 

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Happy to report my sims are back after deleting the Hybrid/Ice Cream mod. Yayy!! Still getting some other errors after the latest update but that was the biggest stress. 

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All of my vampire sims are missing too, I haven no clue what to do. Even when I try put them in different worlds they still disappear. And its not just my families either its also the townies from the vampire world.

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@thesimmerc Do you have any hybrid occult mods? You will need to remove or update those and then load an earlier version of your save from before they were deleted.

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