Wraiths Portal is Nerfed but Not Crypto

[BarryBarker]

Wraiths portal doesn’t last as long if you start or end it in the storm but Cryptos drone can sit inside storm as long as it wants. I don’t think this is fair AND that it should be the other way around so that Wraiths portal lasts longer inside the storm BECAUSE you can actually kill crypto’s drone (therefore it takes damage and shouldn’t be able to survive storm 5 forever) and because you can’t actually kill wraiths portal— seems logical.

I never noticed that crypto’s drone can sit inside storm forever until now but I don’t think it’s fair when it comes to ring 5 because it can detect you and you can hardly see it because it’s highlighted orange just like the storm.

EA...please consider changing this.

Apex Community Members please don’t let this flop. Send it to the top.

[Zamaha400]

@BarryBarkerthe majority of Ults and tacticals are unaffected by the zone. The only exceptions are Lifeline's tactical and Wraith's Ult because they can be abused.

It's perfectly fair and lay off of poor Crypto when every other legend works the same.

[Taketh]

that seems like a perfectly reasonable request.    +1

[UnwarierSquid16]

@BarryBarker I totally agree with @Zamaha400. Firstly, the wraith port only disappears if both ends are in the storm. They nerfed wraiths portal in season4 because people should be more focused on getting out of the storm, not sitting around looting or fighting and being fine because they have a wraith, that puts a massive disadvantage on other teams who cant use a portal to get to the ring faster, and really that's not what wraiths ult is made for. BUT the port does stay for 4 seconds in the storm so you can still use it if your teammates take it immediately.

Also lay off poor crypto cos wraith is already A tier or higher but crypto isnt as powerful and is so underused already!

[BarryBarker]

@Zamaha400 So you're saying that it is "perfectly fair" that there is a orange highlight around a drone hovering at the edge of storm, scanning you and revealing your location in ring 5? I'm not here to attack Crypto-- he needs a little something more, I agree. Nonetheless, the orange highlight makes the drone NEAR impossible to see in the storm. Is it not fair to at least change the color so that its easier to see in storm so that the enemy team at least has a chance to shoot it down?

P.S.

@Zamaha400  - "It's perfectly fair and lay off of poor Crypto when every other legend works the same"

@Zamaha400  - "majority of Ults and tacticals are unaffected by the zone. The only exceptions are Lifeline's tactical and Wraith's Ult because they can be abused."

If every legend works the same then why are Lifeline and Wraith exceptions? Since abuse is the criteria...

I agree that champions whose abilities are abused in Storm should be nerved and I also think that Crypto's drone (in the situation stated) is an abuse of the ability in storm.

Please tell me if I'm wrong but don't victimize "poor Crpyto" and criminalize me as if I'm attacking him. Thank you.

[BarryBarker]

@UnwarierSquid16 Please reread my original post because you just restated what I said about Wraiths portal... but thanks for the interpretation of season 4 patch notes. I was well aware of the abuse which is undergone in high level game play with wraiths portal.

Furthermore, like I told @Zamaha400 I'm not here to "get on poor Crypto" or any of the other legends. I'm stating a logical and reasonable change to the color which highlights Crypto's drone when it's in the storm. I think it's reasonable that the enemy team should have the opportunity to find and destroy Crypo's drone while it sits in storm. The Orange highlight around the drone makes it NEAR impossible to see--reckons my reason for creating this post in the first place.

Read my response to @Zamaha400 and like if you agree. If not, then please tell me if my request is unreasonable for any reason, except that Crypto's abilities are already weak which is not my problem, but for the creators to buff with a fix of the drones highlight while in storm.
Thank you.

[Zamaha400]

@BarryBarker I was having a bit of fun with the "poor Crypto" line but I stand by what I said. We're going to disagree about the viability of a Crypto drone during the final rings so I'll move past that.

#1 I think Wraith's portal only disappears if BOTH ends are outside the drone.

#2 They were forced to nerf Wraith's Ult and Lifeline's tactical due to how they were abused when the final ring disappeared. They won't do the same to Crypto until his drone proves to be game breaking as well.

#3 You never mentioned anything about changing the color of his drone but that's fine I guess. No particular feelings about it.

#4 Crypto's drone is an advantage for the final fight but difficult to set up and not even the cheapest trick to use. Gibraltar, Caustic and Bangalore have inescapable abilities during the final ring and They still weren't as game breaking as Wraith and Lifeline's tricks.

[UnwarierSquid16]

@BarryBarker I apologise for arguing about wraiths portal so much if we're both aware of all the details.

Originally you suggested cryptos drone should be destroyed by the storm instead of wraiths portal which makes logical sense as it has 30 health, but one of cryptos perks is being able to retrieve teammates banners from the storm with the drone, and this could no longer happen if the drone cant survive in the storm..

In response to your point about changing the colour of his drone in the storm, surely that would be easier to destroy if you were outside the storm looking in which puts crypto at a disadvantage? And if you're in the ring facing the storm and looking at a drone in the ring, surely theres the same colour problem which woildnt be fixed by your new storm colour suggestion.

[BarryBarker]

@Zamaha400Thanks for the reply. 

I understand that the original post does not directly talk about changing the color of Crypto's drone. I mention that it would be logical to use my reasoning behind buffing Wraiths portal but my intentions with this post is to not buff Wraiths portal but to somehow make it fair for Crypto's enemies to see his drone while it is in the storm because of its ability to hover in an obvious spot with a sort of camouflage affect.

Please think about the hovering affect for a second-- terminology is key. It can sit in one spot, not inconspicuous in any way and an enemy team can't see it because of the orange highlight. Hypothetically, say the highlight changes to red once it hits the storm. This would make it much easier for the enemy team to spot, if they hold enough game sense to shoot it out of the air while in cover.

To your points though

#1 I'm aware of how Wraiths portal works, which was also explained in great detail (and with specifics) by @UnwarierSquid16 

#2 I agree that it shouldn't die in the storm because of it's ability to collect a teammates banner in storm also explained by our fellow community member @UnwarierSquid16 

#3 Answered in opening response

#4 I wouldn't say that it's difficult to set up for someone who's familiar with Crypto. I wouldn't say that it's "game breaking" as you said, which would call for it to be destroyed in storm. Although I do think that the advantage this gives in the final fight gives reason enough to call for the color of the highlight to be changed to red so that an enemy team would have a fair chance to destroy it.

We may not agree on some aspects of this post and that's okay. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that.

I'm still interested to know if you think it would be reasonable to change the highlight around the drone to red (or another color) while in storm?

Thanks for the response.

[BarryBarker]

@UnwarierSquid16 It's okay. Thanks for great responses otherwise.

I agree that Crypto's ability to retrieve teammates banners while in storm is essential to his usefulness on Kings Canyon and destroying the drone is an unreasonable nerf.

I don't understand how your comment about making it easier or harder to kill Crypto's drone whether your inside the storm looking in, or inside ring looking into storm would change based on the color of the drones highlight. Although I give you props for trying to make sense of it and offering insight, I do disagree.

The scenario which supports my concern is an enemy team (fighting Crypto) inside the 5th ring should be able to see Crypto's drone in storm easier. I think that if EA changed the highlight of Crypto's drone once it is in storm would help significantly. This would work with any color, other than orange of course.

I will repost what I said to @Zamaha400 for your convenience.

"Please think about the hovering affect for a second-- terminology is key. It can sit in one spot, not inconspicuous in any way and an enemy team can't see it (or its very difficult) because of the orange highlight.

Hypothetically, say the highlight changes to red once it hits the storm. This would make it much easier for the enemy team to spot, if they hold enough game sense to shoot it out of the air while in cover."

I think that this would be a reasonable change to Crypto's drone without stealing from his tactical ability.

Let me know what you think. I have enjoyed our conversation thus far.