February 2019
SMG is not a precision weapon it's a spray weapon. Meant to compete in close range with shotguns which are also no a precision weapon.
Headshots don't apply in this situation.
February 2019
February 2019
@General-NOH wrote:Having such a high ttk almost removes the need to have a good reaction time, takes away a lot from tactical advantages like position and element of surprise etc. People have too much time to react.
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Did you just say you are not good? Cause if you got the drop on them and they can react and still kill you is a you problem not a TTK problem.
You all seem to forget that the TTK works in both ways.
February 2019
Sorry but you're way off.
Was watching my son play yesterday and multiple times got the drop on people (behind them) with and SMG (supposed to be a cqc shredder right?). Unloaded a whole clip...hitting every shot only to have to reload while the person turned around to shotgun him.
SMG is not a precision weapon it's a spray weapon and within its optimal range should not take more than a clip.
He's a 16 yo avid Fortnite and Destiny player and aim is not an issue.
Either TTK is too high or certain weapons need a major buff to actually work as intended. Otherwise you end up with another BR game where shotguns are the only viable cqc weapons and that would be sad for this game.
I may not have 20 yo thumbs anymore but taking more than a clip with most weapons will not serve this game well. People need to look at the bigger picture.
When the novelty of the game wears off and people can't make the 'big plays' the numbers and social popularity will suffer.
February 2019
@LoganX1 wrote:Sorry but you're way off.
Was watching my son play yesterday and multiple times got the drop on people (behind them) with and SMG (supposed to be a cqc shredder right?). Unloaded a whole clip...hitting every shot only to have to reload while the person turned around to shotgun him.
SMG is not a precision weapon it's a spray weapon and within its optimal range should not take more than a clip.
He's a 16 yo avid Fortnite and Destiny player and aim is not an issue.
Either TTK is too high or certain weapons need a major buff to actually work as intended. Otherwise you end up with another BR game where shotguns are the only viable cqc weapons and that would be sad for this game.
I may not have 20 yo thumbs anymore but taking more than a clip with most weapons will not serve this game well. People need to look at the bigger picture.
When the novelty of the game wears off and people can't make the 'big plays' the numbers and social popularity will suffer.
That is your opinion... This isnt your standard game that has been the norm for these past few years (thank god).
Learn to accept that TTK is fine. Its like RTCW:ET the good old days where you cant 1shot all the things like COD, CS,...
Also you say SMG is a precision weapon bla bla... Maybe in this game its something else, whats next? crying that if someone jumps of a cliff they dont take fall dmg...
Its a new game different from other Battle Royal games. Let me say that again DIFFERENT as in not the same.
Stop trying to make this a Fortnite -building or a PUBG in an other style...
It's Apex Legends deal with it and stop crying and adept.
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Lol ok kid.
Your method of debating is trash and elitist.
We'll see what happens in a few months.
I'll be back to poke fun at you.
Not trying to make this a Fortnite. That game has trash gunplay and its focus is the stupid building.
But...in order for this game to compete and actually maintain its player base it needs to have a better ttk.
February 2019
Dude, why can't you accept that there is NOTHING wrong with this TTK in this game....
Not all games have to be like COD or CS where 2-4 hits = kill...
Why do you think that your opinion is better then all the FPS streamers...
Not 1 FPS stream says TTK is bad...
Only you and this army of players that stand still to aim, prolly hipfire 90% of the time cry about TTK.
It's sad...
February 2019
I think TTK is pretty good now, ofc it has to be little higher than in normal PvP FPS games, like in titanfall 2. It was so easy to kill anyone. But this is BR game, and I think you should not be able to kill somone really fast unless you hit headshots. Dying to couple bullets while having best armour end game whould be so frustrating, I think i'd stop playing real fast. If you want fast phased gameplay with fast TTK, go try titanfall
February 2019
Dude,
Why can't you accept that it's not (See I can do that too)
Your argument if just full of assumptions.
I don't want CoD, I don't want Fortnight, I don't want Battlefield, I don't want Destiny,
What I'd like to see is weapons that work. Getting the drop on someone with an SMG, and landing all your shots, should not allow the other person to do a 90 degree turn an 1 shot you (didn't you say you didn't want CoD?)
I'm all for allowing players to react and have a change as outmaneuvering or even out shooting someone. But when AIM isn't the problem then it's either the weapon or the TTK.
Streamers can suck it. They all have an agenda and it's to get views so their opinion on what gameplay is for the average player means jack sh!t. No developer should cater to streamers. They literally make money off of playing the game so their opinions are immediately bias.
@Joewlsi wrote:Only you and this army of players that stand still to aim, prolly hipfire 90% of the time cry about TTK.
This is the kind of asinine elitist response that I expect from the Destiny forums.
And if it's "an Army" then maybe there's a point to be made. Becayse if that Army leaves what happens to the player pool? On no the game won't be better without them.
This whole statement is just a back-handed insult because you really have nothing else to contribute. "Probably hipfire" Really? That what you're trying to debate with? Come back with something real and maybe we'll continue this.
If this many people are already complaining about it it's not about Aim son. It's a tangible problem to people. This is a 'you' problem for not being able to accept that.
February 2019
@I3loodeR wrote:I think TTK is pretty good now, ofc it has to be little higher than in normal PvP FPS games, like in titanfall 2. It was so easy to kill anyone. But this is BR game, and I think you should not be able to kill somone really fast unless you hit headshots. Dying to couple bullets while having best armour end game whould be so frustrating, I think i'd stop playing real fast. If you want fast phased gameplay with fast TTK, go try titanfall
The headshot argument only applies to ranged gunplay.
Right now CQC has only shotguns being viable. If you want this game to NOT be Fortnight or Destiny then you need to make the other CQC weapons actually viable.
SMG's are not precision weapons and spraying someone in the back with a full clip (hitting all shots) should drop them. I'm all for having a chance to react and make a play but right now that's not working as intended.
I keep saying, I don't want CoD or Titanfall fast. It's just need to be viable. There's enough people complaining about it that I'd expect some answer from Respawn soon. They can't ignore the feedback.
If they decide not to change anything they need to give an answer why but in the long run this high of a TTK is going to hurt the game.