Too many "pro" players ruining everyone's fun.

[Jekth_Avid]

I think I'd like to play with people at my skill level rather than getting put up against people who spend 15 hours a day on the game. My friends and I play around 1-2 hours a day, so we dont have time to git gud. We just want to play the game and maybe even win a few times. Kinda hard to do that when there's a fully loaded pred squad with full gear and the mastiff. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are in a similar situation to mine. I don't like having one fair/fun engagement and then instantly getting rekt by a horizon with 2 thousand kills and a wraith with some ancient skin and the heirloom :/

[papahandsoap]

I think this has to do more with the matchmaking and less with the players. Once you make it out of the "just downloaded the game" level of matchmaking, you are put into a lobby of people effectively skilled around a hypothetical silver tier all the way up to a hypothetical predator tier. I get pro players wanting to pub stomp, and I'm friends with a few people in Masters/Pred that enjoy doing dumb * in pubs and having fun. Sure, it's not that great for the average/higher skilled players, but it happens. However I don't think that these players are manipulating anything, they just know that the matchmaking has no way to differentiate between low/average/high skill tier players and god tier players so long as they both play at the same game frequency.  

[Apyhs]

I think most of you are right. But there is one little thing what makes the ... lets call ist "learning curve" very very very steep.

Lerning from good players...thats completely impossible. Only two situations can happen here. 

Good player in your team:

Hotdrop, the good one kills everybody ( and you need to stay alive , he will not revive you as you are only ballast ). Suddenly you are champion and you have no clue why that happens. You made 45 dmg.

Endscreen

I hope you learnd something !

Good player in enemy team:

Oh look, there are some enemys in 100m distance.

Next frame you and your team are killed almost instantly.

You made 0 dmg.

Endsceen

I hope you learned something !

You can not even figure out what was happening in both situations. Even in ranked games you have this problem as there are alot smurfs out there. but mainly ppl smurf not to noobbash ppl. If you have a friend starting with apex and you want to play with him/her you need to be very close to his rank...pred and copper....not very close. 

tldnr: You have to spend blood, sweat and tears to become a better player. Its not a git gud sentence. But i dont have a solution to tvis problem other than just die your way up the ladder.

[mkmarie200]

I agree low lvls need an area specifically for them but think about high lvls playing with low lv friends who just started playing at that point the lobby becoms mixed that is why this happens. But mabey they could make a seperated section intended for people lv 100 and under so that if you are passed 100 you cant join. Therefore giving them the option if they wish to try against people closer to their lv. 

[EpistimonKapetan]

I experience the same in every game. I could sweat like these guys, but I would not get any fun out of it. In games, I try to do fun challenges, like explosives only or melee only, and all they do is spawntrap me and kill me over and over, leaving me with a forced 3/22 k/d, and then bullying me over it. The other day, the whole enemy team in bf1 wan spamming "ez ez noob sniff crybaby 3 22" and they really made me rage soooooooo hard and then I closed the game and I was crying irl. I was not crying over my k/d, but because I was suffering. I just wanted to do something unique and have a tiny little bit of fun, but these 14yos think that sweating will get them into faze clan. YOU WILL NOT BE A PART OF FAZE, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU SWEAT! I AM NOT A NOOB, I JUST THINK THAT RUNNING AROUND WITH AN SMG AND SHOOTING PEOPLE IS, it's boring. Why would I do that. They play only for the win, and they don't even have fun out of it. They destroy the fun for everyone, even for themselves. Games are supposed to be fun, that's why they exist in the first place.

[EpistimonKapetan]

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@mortalmeteor wrote:

So...this one is a little stupid and more me being a "salty and sore loser" but in my opinion, I don't care. Whenever I play Apex, i would often think i would get a decent lobby where everyone is at least decent and not too good/bad. but all i get are stupidly high lv players with an insane amount of kills who want nothing more than to ruin everyone's day, including mine. These "pro" players don't deserve to be in lobbies where there are loads of lv level players. These low levels wanna get used to the game and enjoy themselves but when these "pro" players destroy them with nothing more than a Peacekeeper or any full-auto weapons.

I feel sorry for these low level players cause they wanna play something thats fast paced, balanced and is not Fortnite/PUBG. But instead they get the sweaty, try-hard, "pro" players whose ego's are bigger than their brains. Why can't players who are, say, over lv 45-50 be put in a match where it's all high levels? give low level players a chance to experience the game without the threat of the sweaty try-hards. These guys just wanna ruin everyone's fun because all they care about is winning and nothing else. It's not even a competitive game. but as always games like these bring out the worst of people.

Hate, laugh and troll me all you want, one thing is certain: Low level players need a chance to enjoy the game without any high level sweaty players ruining everyone's fun. High level players over lvs 45-50 should have their own lobby for them where anyone below lv 45 or so won't be rekt by them.

Also, nerf Peacekeeper slightly and buff the P2020 slightly.

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I experience the same in every game. I could sweat like these guys, but I would not get any fun out of it. In games, I try to do fun challenges, like explosives only or melee only, and all they do is spawntrap me and kill me over and over, leaving me with a forced 3/22 k/d, and then bullying me over it. The other day, the whole enemy team in bf1 wan spamming "ez ez noob sniff crybaby 3 22" and they really made me rage soooooooo hard and then I closed the game and I was crying irl. I was not crying over my k/d, but because I was suffering. I just wanted to do something unique and have a tiny little bit of fun, but these 14yos think that sweating will get them into faze clan. YOU WILL NOT BE A PART OF FAZE, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU SWEAT! I AM NOT A NOOB, I JUST THINK THAT RUNNING AROUND WITH AN SMG AND SHOOTING PEOPLE IS, it's boring. Why would I do that. They play only for the win, and they don't even have fun out of it. They destroy the fun for everyone, even for themselves. Games are supposed to be fun, that's why they exist in the first place.

[Irres169]

@Prupisek which one? As long as it is not Goofy you are fine....

[Irres169]

A "low level only" area is pointless

I had a lvl 6 destroying a lobbly last night

but it's ok he is only lvl 6 because his main account got banned for cheating. 

[mortalmeteor]

it's been over 2 years since i made that post and at that time i was still noob (and still am today because...matchmaking.) and i agree with your statement it's just so annoying i mean thats why there's a ranked playlist so the sweaty players can go and be sweaty there and yet they prefer to sweat in "casual playlists" because "why not right". i have autism and i have a hard time accepting losing unless it was a funny/fun match where everyone was on the same page: winning doesn't matter, it's just having a bit of fun. but of course there'll always be scumbags out there who want nothing more than to see others suffer when they win. And now with Arena's it has become more of a sweat fest i just lost 2 matches with my mate and both teams we were facing were sweating like hell and one of the randos we had said we were bad. Oh i'm sorry idiot i didn't realise we should've been playing YOUR way. i swear people like that need to chill and not be egotistical but we live in an age were competitive games are the norm and many 11 year old squeakers that swear like sailors believe they'll be noticed by pro teams and may get a chance to join them. FAT CHANCE! just because you're good at the game doesn't mean you'll get noticed by a well known team.

(may have gone off topic so sorry there but just trying to get my point across). in the end i try to have fun and not take the game seriously but what can you do when you keep getting sweaty lobby after sweaty lobbie and the game likes to screw you over?

Honestly i just wish the game would be more fun for those who just wanna play casually and just mess around with others for fun whether it's with oyur own team or even an enemy team. Fun is all that matters really.

[DarthSkimMilk]

pro gamers joining regular lobbies are wrecking people ruins games and fun in general.  can you imagine lebron james going to a gym where people are learning to play basketball, and he is just dunking on everyone and making them leave since they lost?  that's the equivalent to sweaty gamers in casual games.