November 2019
Why do I have to face Predators as a Platinum rank? This is just stupid and im tired of playing literally pro players to try to advance even to diamond. Ive spent a good amount of money on this game and now im done spending money or playing this game until this issue is fixed
November 2019
The matchmaking system doesn't really care what rank you are or what rank you're facing. If there's not enough similarly skilled players in the matchmaker, it'll just take whoever is there and throw them into a match.
Example: Last season after not starting ranked for 2 weeks after it came out, my first ranked game was against Apex Predators after the matchmaker reported only having 57 people to start with. I got a Silver 5 and a Gold 2 player against a full champion premade of Apex Predators.
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I would guess the matchmaking system is matching players according to a normal curved distribution around the matchs average MMR that gradually expands its deviation parameters if there are too few players to fill up a lobby. So if the average MMR for your match is lets say, Platinum1, the matchmaking system will start to search for "most" players around Platinum1, "a little less" players maybe around Platinum2 and Diamond4, and " very few" players in Platinum3 and Diamond3. But if it cant find players with this narrow deviation, it might broaden it so it has "most" players from Plat2 to Diamond 1, "a little less" players around Plat4 to Diamond3 , and " very few" players all the way from Gold to Predator.
A friend of mine has worked in the gaming industry since 2006 and according to him, this is a common basic principle to design a MMR based matching making, but can ofc not be sure how Apex algorithm works. I guess sometimes you get unlucky and get picked to a match where the average is above your MMR, and sometimes you get lucky when the average MMR is below your MMR.
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In Order for the matchmaking to be correct you would need 60 players from each tier to be wanting in ranked at the same time and that just isn’t ever going to happen especially at higher ranks it probally would at bronze and silver though anyways if they did do it for 60 players for each tier the waiting times would be extreemely long and im not talking 10-15 minutes i mean long lol and even if it happened once... that is only one match and not multiple going on at the same time
November 2019
Its dumb. Its whats going to kill this game. Apex Legends is slowly dying and forcing me to play against tryhards with no job or life with 15k+ kills is ridiculous and unfair. There are over 3k Apex Predators and they should only be matched with other Preds. Long wait times? Oh well. Its the price you have to pay being ranked that high
Its much worse this season compared to last. I didnt start running into Preds until Diamond. Now im struggling mid plat. People say you get better by playing against better players. Oh really? So somehow me being better is going to prevent a pro from hitting me for 150+ with an R99? Sure. I kind of hope this game does die because Respawn is trying their best to not update it and fix major well known issues. They dont deserve this game
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Compare it to LoL, which has 2-300% of Apex active players. A challenger player must sometimes wait 10 minutes to find a game of 9 players. Imagine if 60 players were needed for a game...
So if Predators only were matched with other Predators, I doubt any of them would continue to play after they reached Predator due to the waiting time. So imagine the number of troll accounts pub stomping their ways through all lower division.
Im also playing in your ELO range (Diamond 4 on one account and Plat 2 on the other) and I also get some high Diamonds and sometimes Predators in my games, but honestly I dont think there are that many in each game. You make it sound like you feel that there are 5-10 full squads of Predators in your games, but i reality its probably just a couple of players, which I think is acceptable. Also, have you ever thought of how many Plat 4 (which usually means gold skills) or even Goldies there are in Diamond or high plat games? We never complain about that, do we?
November 2019
That's simply because the game is filled with diamonds in duos. In one match there were like 20-25 diamonds and predators dropping. Makes sense since, not so long ago, diamonds were complaining about having hard times ranking up, because of predators joining the lobbies. Many of them probably stopped grinding and turned to duos for hunting badges, so it's very possible that there are too few diamonds and predators playing ranked, which is why the matchmaking distributes them to lower ranks, where there are more players in the queue. It's either this or longer queues for them and probably even for platinum, which would turn into a loss of a large number of good players.
November 2019
There are a lot of full squads of Preds in my games. Every time I die it's by a squad that's top 100. I almost never die from diamond leveled players and if I do, they have 1-2 preds on their team. Even if you have to give them lobbies that arent full who cares. It's not fair to me to put me against people with 10x my kills on full squads. That's like overwatch putting diamonds against a full GM team
November 2020
with cross play being released I expected it to get better not worse... played a ranked game, I’m in plat 1. My team consisted of me, a gold and a silver... the champion squad consisted of one master one diamond and one platinum. How on earth is that MMR match making? My team was wiped out almost instantly on drop leaving me alone to face the sweatiest lobby I’ve ever seen. But like I said with cross play why is the issue getting worse? I would rather play against a play pc player than full premade squads on preds and masters on console. They all use m&k anyway so it’s not much different...
November 2020