May 2022
I'm happy to hear that I'm not only one having problems with the new ranked system.
It feels like a general demotion of value for the players. But it is not just that. It has made the whole ranked mode into an e-sport. If I could before breeze from gold (or any lower rank) to high plat and then play seriously to get back to diamond, now I have to play seriously in Silver and it still is so much slower to advance. It doesn't make the game any more enjoyable if you have to sweat from the start. Because before you could feel that 'hey I've achieved this to play easily against people that are lower rank than I'. Now, it's constant struggle with no dull moment, in a bad way.
Furthermore, this is especially demotivating and punishing for old players who play solo. I've around 2300 hours in the game so the matchmaking system regards me 'as a good player' and the teammates I get mostly are of low level and low experience. Meaning that I am supposed to carry the games most of the time (yes I know, even low leveled can be good players but the probability is lower, more experience usually means more skill). Hence, I have to struggle constantly or take a huge losing streak to get higher leveled people into my team and this doesn't guarantee a win. And even if you would win you'd still maximally get around 250 points back. If you are going to make ranked harder how about maybe rising the maximum point cap so that when you actually do have a good game and own the game you're really rewarded for it.
The system doesn't push you to play with your team and play well to rise in the ranks. It pushes you to rat every match to be last survivors to get some points, at least in the lower tiers. I have no idea how ridiculously hard it's going to be after silver. I hated LoL's ranked system and this feels like a copy of it. I hope that this is just a test from respawn and next season is going to be more like the old style.
May 2022
@Kuroroche wrote:...
If you are going to make ranked harder how about maybe rising the maximum point cap so that when you actually do have a good game and own the game you're really rewarded for it.
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There already is no maximum point cap, but to get more then 125 KP you need:
(The RP was found in the reddit post: Season 13 RP expected payout spreadsheet)
This means that the removed KP cap will only matter in the top 5 and is mostly felt in top 3.
May 2022
May 2022
I have been Platinum ranked and close to diamond multiple times in the past, i took a break from Apex and returned to play it and thought i would try to do it again solo queue, this now is barely impossible to get RP and this is my experience so far because of randoms and how bad some of them are.
Their has been times where the randoms don't push the right fights and if they do, it's at the very last second where the team has destroyed the other team, refilled health and shields and are awaiting us and they destroy us in seconds because they don't do anything and you don't even hear a single shot from your team and you realize they are trying to sneakily loot boxes instead of fighting the team.
Their is the other times where my team are shooting and go to push, but then in the last second start running in a different direction and start ratting for position and their tactic completely changed, leaving me fighting a team all by myself while they are just hiding behind some rock/pillar/wall doing nothing to help and letting me just get taken out and then they ended up being found out and destroyed in seconds.
And the other common thing i have encountered is team mates running off in different directions doing their own thing like it is public games instead of sticking together and it's like "Seriously, it's a ranked game, what are you doing?" And if you say something they are either toxic back to you or report you for being toxic because they want to do their own thing which should be in public games.
That has been my experience in the past week and it's really bad as a solo, their is barely a point to even sign up for ranked as it's bad, if you are going to have point reductions and demotions have it for Diamonds/masters/preds, but for Bronze and Silvers either none or a lot less than what it is now.
Though i can also add this and say keep Silver ranked players from Bronze ranked and keep Rookie players from both because it's even harder if they get paired together as you have to decide "Do we play it safe for the silver or the bronze to get points? or do we just risk it and try and get 3 points and camp till top 10?"
Though another issue, i just remembered a friend of mine was silver or gold last season, this season they were placed in rookie ranking, yet the patch notes say that anyone who has played ranked before this season will not be placed in rookie, yet i have seen them and dozens more in rookie and they haven't even touched rank to be demoted to rookie or anything so something isn't right there either.
My thoughts on this season of ranked is this, you are catering to the big tournament players and the ones who are top Master and Predator rank every season, you should have at least beta tested this and had people of different ranks try it out and see if anything needed fixing and changing before rolling it out to everyone, because with this current setup you are going to be seeing less people trying rank and the ones that do will give up within a few days. Also with this new system it will give way to smurfs trashing ranked for people below their main characters rank and keeping people out by purposefully sabotaging or even just going about in full squads and wiping lobbies and then dropping back in rank and repeating it as it's easier to demote yourself back a rank to play against people who are worse than you.
May 2022
I agree with you too much. It's really like another LOL,(I've deleted itI really hope it can be repaired quickly)If their original intention is to make everyone get better teammates, I have nothing to say, but I just can't give up the friends who played THIS GAME together before. Maybe we could get Diamond Platinum in the S12, but now we can't even get silver. Every game is accompanied by anxiety and is no longer as interesting as before.:eacry:I've started to quit this game today. I don't have any other games to play, but I know APEX doesn't make me happy now
May 2022
The interesting question is: Why Respawn did this change to the ranked system?
Of course, they say it's for "teamplay", blah, blah, etc. But this change will drive tons of people off ranked mode - and they surely knew it. So, again, why Respawn did this change to ranked? I doubt they wanted to change how people play ranked. IMHO: they will add a new mode, and they want to move people discouraged with ranked13 there.
May 2022 - last edited May 2022
@AreYouShiveringTotally agree. They made changes in S12 to increase placement points so teams would fight more for the win at the endgame but then the 1% of the best players complained it was too easy that bad players were Master that some mad crazy players proved you could rank up to Master just by ratting and not shooting your gun you could be Master.
So Respawn asked for advice on what a good rank system would be to pros and popular streamer and they came up with this.
The 1% wanted a more competitive rank system with demotion (not simple demotion because the player could get back up quickly; in fact they don't want us to play if we can't grind for 6 weeks like preds do; git gud, go play pubs) and another way to prevent early fraggers that die in the first rings because he fights too much was to remove the 10 point per kill.
So essentially the 1% don't want us to rank up they want only premades and they got served because now I see many of them struggling, losing points and getting destroyed by full coms premade trios of high level.
Also seems they keep playing together the same 60 players.. the queue is so long in Diamond + that you essentially wait for the same players to finish their game so they can join the new game.
May 2022
Exactly like I expected the 1% get the whole 3 higher ranks of rank.... and they tell us: git gud, play pubs and you didnt deserve that rank at S11, S12
May 2022
@wulala_wang wrote:I agree with you too much. It's really like another LOL,(I've deleted itI really hope it can be repaired quickly)If their original intention is to make everyone get better teammates, I have nothing to say, but I just can't give up the friends who played THIS GAME together before. Maybe we could get Diamond Platinum in the S12, but now we can't even get silver. Every game is accompanied by anxiety and is no longer as interesting as before.:eacry:I've started to quit this game today. I don't have any other games to play, but I know APEX doesn't make me happy now
Suggestion vis the bold marked sentence I quoted. I know this is not an FPS game but it is a great break from the stress of FPS games and is very well done. One can play it solo or set up your own computer as a server and play with friends. The game is called Valheim. IDK if you are a console player or PC player so this may not be the best suggestion as it is only available for PC through Steam.
Another alternative is wait a few weeks and come back to Apex as the whole new rank system and MM should settle down a little bit, at least that is my hope because I am currently stuck in Bronze purgatory, because I keep getting matched against current Silver or Gold players that were Pred, Master or Diamond last season.
May 2022
Thank you very much for your advice, my friend. I think I should recommend this game with my friends. It looks really good. In addition, I suddenly got interested last night and went back to TF2 to play it. It's still full of fun.