March 2019 - last edited March 2019
@Ariautoace wrote:This is BR. This will NEVER be implemented.
Why do people not respect a BR or take it as serious as any other game?
This doesn't make sense to me. I have a feeling this is why there is so many toxic players in this game. They feel thats what BR is for, being toxic, its something to disrespect. Its nothing to take serious. They tell themselves anyone can win if they just hide in the corner, but yet can't prove it.....lol
I find this fascinating and baffling.
I really think it just comes down to selfish entitlement and short attention spans.
March 2019
Its because brs are large rng based and you do statistically have a better chance of winning if you play passive...
Two equally skilled players land in the same building...one gets a pk and shield the other gets a p2020 no shield...player two has lost to luck instead of skill...
Players who play passive encounter less foes and inherently have less risks of losing. And at some point your loot will still be good if you play passive...last 2 teams can't have all the purple shields attachments that spawned... They will forcibly leave good loot in death boxes for stragglers to snag...
Just the way brs are unfortunately....
March 2019 - last edited March 2019
@DontSilenceMe wrote:Its because brs are large rng based and you do statistically have a better chance of winning if you play passive...
Two equally skilled players land in the same building...one gets a pk and shield the other gets a p2020 no shield...player two has lost to luck instead of skill...
Players who play passive encounter less foes and inherently have less risks of losing. And at some point your loot will still be good if you play passive...last 2 teams can't have all the purple shields attachments that spawned... They will forcibly leave good loot in death boxes for stragglers to snag...
Just the way brs are unfortunately....
I don't see why you say thats unfortunate? Cause your favorite streamers stream would be too boring? Why play a BR then?
You call it playing passive. I call it a strategy. But on the other hand sometimes its better to attack the opponent by 3rd partying them when they are weak and taking their gear. It all depends man and the good players would know when to attack, and when to run away and hide. Either they know they outgear them, they know the have landscape advantages, etc...
But you are right, dropping hot all the time is going to get you way more losses then if you dropped smarter. Drop points in a BR are the most important thing. And most people do not want to be bothered.
The problem is that most gamers have short attention spans and want to fight as soon as possible no matter what. And they are selfish and don't want to play on a team. And high level streamers just want their streams to be exciting. So they drop hot and pwn noobs for followers and subscribers who also have short attention spans.
I can't tell you the amount of times I just see my teammates run towards enemies with no gear no weapons. Sometimes totally ignoring loot. Sometimes they don't even have any freaking health and they run off to the enemy like moths to a lightbulb. Yesterday a dude had no health. I was lifeline i was shouting I would heal him. He runs across the map towards the gunfire and dies. I couldn't believe it. I lost count of the amount of times I saw people run towards gun fire ignoring whole houses of loot, without a shield, Just because they wanted to be in the action.
There is nothing wrong with a BR game mode, But there is something seriously wrong with people who don't like BR game modes playing BR all the time.
March 2019 - last edited March 2019
I don't really have any streamers I watch...whatever's on YouTube...I say it's unfortunate because the whole loot scheme doesn't allow for a test of skill...what would be the problem with dropping with a preset load out and Max health? Rng is what ruins brs and keeps them from reaching a true competitive state. Which to answer your question earlier is why no one respects brs...
To say "I call it strategy" is a bit pointless since you could play strategically aggressive or passive...
But you are correct...most br players have transitioned from traditional tdm for games where run n gun is the dominant play style unless you come from a search n destroy style hardcore playlist...a little more strategy in those.
I would personally rather have a 10kill fast paced game finishing 6th or so than a 0 kill 2nd place or 1st place...to me it's boring
If respawn would simply implement solos and duos the squad community wouldn't have to worry about guys like myself who purely refuse to play passively. Don't get me wrong I'm not running gung ho into a mid game mosh pit with no support lvl 1 shields and no heals. But if my squad is kitted I'm tryna move into the action from either flank preferably the high side or side with more cover.
But sorry man if I get put with some straight up campers I will do 1 of 3 things...
And br stands for BATTLE Royale. If it had been intended to be played passive they'd have called it a HSL...HIDE AND SHOOT LATER
March 2019 - last edited March 2019
@DontSilenceMe wrote:I don't really have any streamers I watch...whatever's on YouTube...I say it's unfortunate because the whole loot scheme doesn't allow for a test of skill...what would be the problem with dropping with a preset load out and Max health? Rng is what ruins brs and keeps them from reaching a true competitive state. Which to answer your question earlier is why no one respects brs...
To say "I call it strategy" is a bit pointless since you could play strategically aggressive or passive...
But you are correct...most br players have transitioned from traditional tdm for games where run n gun is the dominant play style unless you come from a search n destroy style hardcore playlist...a little more strategy in those.
I would personally rather have a 10kill fast paced game finishing 6th or so than a 0 kill 2nd place or 1st place...to me it's boring
If respawn would simply implement solos and duos the squad community wouldn't have to worry about guys like myself who purely refuse to play passively. Don't get me wrong I'm not running gung ho into a mid game mosh pit with no support lvl 1 shields and no heals. But if my squad is kitted I'm tryna move into the action from either flank preferably the high side or side with more cover.
But sorry man if I get put with some straight up campers I will do 1 of 3 things...
- Leave the game
- Sit at the furthest reaches of the map and watch you tube till the storm comes in
- Starting shooting at the sky trying to get some action
And br stands for BATTLE Royale. If it had been intended to be played passive they'd have called it a HSL...HIDE AND SHOOT LATER
But that defeats the purpose of a BR. RNG is the whole point. Its called battle royale because eventually you will have to fight to the death.
I've discussed on here how there is alot of luck involved in poker, but that doesn't stop the best players from consistently winning tournaments.
And ya so I'm right, BR games are boring to you.
Solos and duos wouldn't help me get away from guys like you. Some sort of ranked match maker would though....
March 2019 - last edited March 2019
@RichAC wrote:
@DontSilenceMe wrote:I don't really have any streamers I watch...whatever's on YouTube...I say it's unfortunate because the whole loot scheme doesn't allow for a test of skill...what would be the problem with dropping with a preset load out and Max health? Rng is what ruins brs and keeps them from reaching a true competitive state. Which to answer your question earlier is why no one respects brs...
To say "I call it strategy" is a bit pointless since you could play strategically aggressive or passive...
But you are correct...most br players have transitioned from traditional tdm for games where run n gun is the dominant play style unless you come from a search n destroy style hardcore playlist...a little more strategy in those.
I would personally rather have a 10kill fast paced game finishing 6th or so than a 0 kill 2nd place or 1st place...to me it's boring
If respawn would simply implement solos and duos the squad community wouldn't have to worry about guys like myself who purely refuse to play passively. Don't get me wrong I'm not running gung ho into a mid game mosh pit with no support lvl 1 shields and no heals. But if my squad is kitted I'm tryna move into the action from either flank preferably the high side or side with more cover.
But sorry man if I get put with some straight up campers I will do 1 of 3 things...
- Leave the game
- Sit at the furthest reaches of the map and watch you tube till the storm comes in
- Starting shooting at the sky trying to get some action
And br stands for BATTLE Royale. If it had been intended to be played passive they'd have called it a HSL...HIDE AND SHOOT LATER
But that defeats the purpose of a BR. RNG is the whole point. Its called battle royale because eventually you will have to fight to the death.
I've discussed on here how there is alot of luck involved in poker, but that doesn't stop the best players from consistently winning tournaments.
And ya so I'm right, BR games are boring to you.
Solos and duos wouldn't help me get away from guys like you. Some sort of ranked match maker would though....
Rng is not the point of a br. It is what the gaming industry has decided will be more favorable to new players or less skilled players. There is nothing stopping a br game from dropping ppl in pre kitted and eliminating the looting phase. I'm almost positive this would eliminate the new player experience as they would get lasered by kitted 301s and r99s as soon as they landed.
In poker if you get a crap hand you can fold ..or bluff...neither are viable options in a br sorry
Br games are.not boring to me because I play aggressively and make them fun. If I played the way you suggest they are "meant" to be played than yeah they are boring...which is why 95% play the way I do...
Solos and duos would get me away from campers like you because I'd be playing solos...you know not forced to be teamed with you
March 2019
@Pretzelnutcake wrote:
Rewarding players who stay after getting killed (atleast until their beacon timer runs out) would be ok but nobody should be punished for leaving early, I know it sucks to be down a gun when going into teamfights but there might have been a irl reason they left or in my case powercuts are a almost daily occurrence and I sure as hell don't want to be punished for something out of my control.
Another reason to leave is, after a while of playing you get enough experience to tell when your 'teammates' are worth relying on or not, so if I get downed and think I can't count on them I just leave and join another match
Tell that to league of legends where a match can last a full hour, and you get a warning the very first time you quit. Keep doing it and get temporary time outs. Do it habitually and get banned from the game.
March 2019
@DontSilenceMe wrote:
@RichAC wrote:
@DontSilenceMe wrote:I don't really have any streamers I watch...whatever's on YouTube...I say it's unfortunate because the whole loot scheme doesn't allow for a test of skill...what would be the problem with dropping with a preset load out and Max health? Rng is what ruins brs and keeps them from reaching a true competitive state. Which to answer your question earlier is why no one respects brs...
To say "I call it strategy" is a bit pointless since you could play strategically aggressive or passive...
But you are correct...most br players have transitioned from traditional tdm for games where run n gun is the dominant play style unless you come from a search n destroy style hardcore playlist...a little more strategy in those.
I would personally rather have a 10kill fast paced game finishing 6th or so than a 0 kill 2nd place or 1st place...to me it's boring
If respawn would simply implement solos and duos the squad community wouldn't have to worry about guys like myself who purely refuse to play passively. Don't get me wrong I'm not running gung ho into a mid game mosh pit with no support lvl 1 shields and no heals. But if my squad is kitted I'm tryna move into the action from either flank preferably the high side or side with more cover.
But sorry man if I get put with some straight up campers I will do 1 of 3 things...
- Leave the game
- Sit at the furthest reaches of the map and watch you tube till the storm comes in
- Starting shooting at the sky trying to get some action
And br stands for BATTLE Royale. If it had been intended to be played passive they'd have called it a HSL...HIDE AND SHOOT LATER
But that defeats the purpose of a BR. RNG is the whole point. Its called battle royale because eventually you will have to fight to the death.
I've discussed on here how there is alot of luck involved in poker, but that doesn't stop the best players from consistently winning tournaments.
And ya so I'm right, BR games are boring to you.
Solos and duos wouldn't help me get away from guys like you. Some sort of ranked match maker would though....Rng is not the point of a br. It is what the gaming industry has decided will be more favorable to new players or less skilled players. There is nothing stopping a br game from dropping ppl in pre kitted and eliminating the looting phase. I'm almost positive this would eliminate the new player experience as they would get lasered by kitted 301s and r99s as soon as they landed.
In poker if you get a crap hand you can fold ..or bluff...neither are viable options in a br sorry
Br games are.not boring to me because I play aggressively and make them fun. If I played the way you suggest they are "meant" to be played than yeah they are boring...which is why 95% play the way I do...
Solos and duos would get me away from campers like you because I'd be playing solos...you know not forced to be teamed with you
Then it wouldn't be a BR. It would be a team death match and there would be no point in having a big map. Would be no point to even explore it.
In poker luck plays a part, period. NO matter how you slice it, way more so then the RNG of a BR. If you drop to an area with low tier loot, play passive till you get better loot. 3rd party a team when weak to get better loot. etc..
Solos would not solve the problem, because noobs and trolls would still be dropping on squad matches. Ranked skill matcher solves the problem.
March 2019
We need elo ranked, duo and solo. Pretty much no getting around it. How they are not already a thing blows my mind. Then once they completely fix the crashing issue they can add a punishment option. Maybe similar to CS:GOs where you just stack time unable to play.
March 2019 - last edited March 2019
It would still be a br. The main features of a br are fighting, exploring, scavenging last man standing...to elimante scavenging would not destroy nor change the genre in a big way except to eliminate luck from the equation.
As i stated earlier in POKER you decide whether to play your hand or not. If I a crap hand followed by a crap flop I'm gone. unless I DECIDE to play my luck for the turn/river/bluff opponents...should I do the equivalent of poker play in a br? Crap two guns like Mozzy/p2020 ( crap down cards in Holdem )...if my opponents push ( raise all in would be the poker equivalent) should I fight ( call in poker ) or should I quit ( fold in poker )? In poker I would fold . So I should quit the game if I get crap loot ( cards )...cool thanks for the advice...
I am also in favor of sbmm...I'm also in favor of solos/ duos as it would completely eliminate the chance of getting a high lvl troll or XP advanced teammate depending on how they choose to define "skill"... Almost every br will rank a 0 win 10kd player above a 2 kd 50% win player...sorry it's just the way it is. I could never willingly classify a end game cherry picker as more skilled than a 10kd player...the cherry picker will lose to the 10kd 99/100 provided the meet under even circumstances. The cherry picker is more efficient and makes choices better suited toward winning but he is not BETTER than the 10kd player...
But the whole reason I responded was to answer your question as to why brs get no respect . It has been and will be until the removal of rng that brs are largely dictated and influenced by luck. Just the way it is