March 2019 - last edited March 2019
"Where you are wrong is, I never said I wanted a lower ttk, just a short lasting buff for wiping a whole squad that keeps my team in the fight and rewards us for the gameplay the actual game is designed for in the first place. "
Wrong. the gameplay was designed to be a battle royale, where people will use their smarts as much as their aim to win. That's the entire point of having so many teams. You like to win through superior gunplay is fine, but you can't take away the option of winning by the smarts.
"People camp on this game all the time. And the high amount of ttk only helps that. People sit in houses on here, or on the outskirts waiting to hear gun fire to run and clean up. "
No they don't. There's a reason why often there's less than 10 squads alive before the first circle close.(Granted that changes from server to server)
Very often people hear gunfire and went in the direction TO find a fight, not because they were waiting it to happen.
"What you, and every other snobbish sounding, other problem with the game having, egotistical know it all in this post seems to continually misunderstand is I've never stated I engage and get punished because of it. I've stated I get punished because I can't disengage because from the very start of a fire fight(intended or not, pursued or not) the situation is literally impossible to escape. It's either try to run and die trying, or fight and die from the 4th or 5th squads attempt at clean up. If my squad mates and I are good enough to literally take down 4 squads in a row within 1 or 2 minutes, skill needs to stop being brought up and questioned. "
It can be questioned because you are complaining BR stuff in a BR game. You might be good at aiming but you clearly sucks at smart thinking and tactics.
It's quite simple to disengage from a fight, but you need to plan that BEFORE you fully commit. One thing is taking a advantageous position and set up the escape route. Another is jumping in the middle of the enemy squad or entering the house they are using as cover and deciding to run.
You make it sound as if you are playing this game as if it was an arena shooter. What it isn't. It's a battle royale. You can learn how to play a battle royale, that as i stated is more than good aim, or you can keep complaining about Battle Royale stuff in a Battle Royale game.
And the first thing you need to learn is that when you get third partied and died it was unfair. Because that's ok to be unfair. that's the point of having 20 squads in the map.
March 2019
Staying at the edges of the ring only to go in when you hear gun fire so you can clean up is not smart. It's simple, cheap, and boring. That game style is used in every other BR, but most other BRs give everyone the fair chance to counter it.
The reason so many squads get wiped so early is cause most squads drop in the same exact area fighting for insta, worth while gear.
And very often people ARE waiting for it to happen.
It's not quite simple to disengage from a fight on this BR when you are already cornered by three of four incoming squads from multiple parts of the map, if not already in combat with two of them. One squad sniping you as you actually try to run, the other waiting right around the corner for you to run into them.
Yall keep trying to make everything seem so clean cut, but keep bringing up the fact that it's a BR, and no BR I know is clean cut. Are yall playing games with zombies in bear traps, literally?? Is it really as simple to yall as thinking, "I want to run away now," and just do that, no problem? That's cool. But from my experience, 80% of the time it doesn't work that way.
March 2019 - last edited March 2019
Staying at the edges of the ring only to go in when you hear gun fire so you can clean up is not smart. It's simple, cheap, and boring. That game style is used in every other BR, but most other BRs give everyone the fair chance to counter it.
This one does a better job because when they back stab you it's unlikely that you will just drop dead like in others BR. And you might find it boring, but it's a tactic. You like it or not. Also shows how you suck at tactics. If you just "RUSH!" to the center of the ring you will find yourself out geared by people that, by chance, dropped there. That's why people fight their early fights then try to loot before moving to the center of the ring. There's no reason to handicap yourself by rushing to the center without being geared.(And facing people that is geared)
The reason so many squads get wiped so early is cause most squads drop in the same exact area fighting for insta, worth while gear.
And very often people ARE waiting for it to happen.
Yes. And yet you say they are camping. What makes me wonder what is your definition of camping. Are you one of these guys that see someone and blindly shoot at them or run straight at them, without giving a damn about where you are and where they are? If so that explains why you find so hard to disengage.
It's not quite simple to disengage from a fight on this BR when you are already cornered by three of four incoming squads from multiple parts of the map, if not already in combat with two of them. One squad sniping you as you actually try to run, the other waiting right around the corner for you to run into them.
And i'm sure they are all working together to fight against you specifically. And for sure you are not shooting at them when they are shooting at someone else, what would explain how you can "easily take out 3~4 squads"
Yall keep trying to make everything seem so clean cut, but keep bringing up the fact that it's a BR, and no BR I know is clean cut. Are yall playing games with zombies in bear traps, literally?? Is it really as simple to yall as thinking, "I want to run away now," and just do that, no problem? That's cool. But from my experience, 80% of the time it doesn't work that way.
Not to repeat myself but: That's the point of a BR, that's why people are playing a BR and not an arena game. To have so many variables that shenanigans will happen and you try to make the best of it. You will 3 party people, you will get 3 partied. How you react when it happens is what matter in BR.
You should always think about the possibility of being shot in the back before engaging someone. So instead of jumping down/leaving the house you are and rushing the enemy in the middle of the river it might be a better idea to try to take them from there, inside the house, even if it means they will simply run away. So if a 3 squad is watching you and decided to engage in you, you can bunker and fend them off or disengage.
Notice how there was 2 choices, but if you choose to reduce their chances you also reduce yours.
But i imagine that you are the player that jump down, rush them. invade the house they are in and suddenly doesn't understand why there's 3 squads shooting at you. Thus why in your text apparently everyone is just waiting for you. And why you find so hard to disengage.
Like i said dude. You might be good at aiming, but you clearly don't know * about tactics or smart thinking. AND BR is as much as smart thinking and tactics as it's about aiming.
March 2019
@TrueDivinorium Yo, you.. need.. to.. stop.. assuming.. the most
I never said I rush to the center of the ring, especially not under geared. People camping are those who stay at the outskirts, trying their best not be seen, or hiding in buildings waiting to hear footsteps and gun fire. That has nothing to do with me answering why you believe so many squads die early on. I never said it was easy taking down 3-4 squads. What do you think I'm doing to take them down, bomb rushing them all and shooting them all at the same exact time? And no I'm not one of those give away my position to get set up type of guys, and I'm tired of you snobs talking down like I am one of those who just so happen to have good aim with no dam sense. My aim isn't even that great, just good enough to fight a good fight. I use the best on the spot tactics I can to keep me and my squad mates alive as long as possible though whatever amount of fighting we may be encountered with. Stop assuming crap and putting words in my mouth(posts).
March 2019
March 2019
@Kaielogy Please read through the decently small previous posts to prevent repetitiveness of statements. Dome is stationary and helps none at all in disengaging or surviving a clean up. Smoke has a literal designed, and unattended(cheat) counter that makes it pointless. Invis only helps one person.. and not even that good cus his cloak form is easy to see, really. Portal take a while to start up and effectively place, and isn't even that good against the average person with decent aim and a Wingman. Plus it can be traveled through by anyone.. Pathfinders zip line is probably the most effective disengaging tool, but so few people actually play that cool guy.
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Then you need to stop answering and think better what you are writting.
"What you, and every other snobbish sounding, other problem with the game having, egotistical know it all in this post seems to continually misunderstand is I've never stated I engage and get punished because of it. I've stated I get punished because I can't disengage because from the very start of a fire fight(intended or not, pursued or not) the situation is literally impossible to escape. It's either try to run and die trying, or fight and die from the 4th or 5th squads attempt at clean up. If my squad mates and I are good enough to literally take down 4 squads in a row within 1 or 2 minutes, skill needs to stop being brought up and questioned. "
Yet.
"... I'm just so, so, so, so, so so so tired of fighting down to my last bit of health because every squad remaining in the game decided to call a truce to take on my one squad, and dying from a clean up crew that put in no work to achieve a honest victory."
So they called a truce but you didn't, you were the honorable one. That's why i assumed that you were the l33d player 2k19 with the aims.
"People camping are those who stay at the outskirts, trying their best not be seen, or hiding in buildings waiting to hear footsteps and gun fire"
That doesn't happen/it's extremely rare.
I had victories where my squad killed 3 guys, the last squad, but it was because we dropped far to get equipment, to avoid bringing fists to a gun fight, and ended not finding anyone for the rest of the match. Even when moving to place to place.
And don't take me wrong. I know that this strategy is a thing. In this topic https://answers.ea.com/t5/Legends-Feedback/Legend-s-Tier-list-lemme-hear-your-opinion/m-p/7454711#M1... 3 weeks ago i gave lifeline top rank just because she made it easier.
But that strategy is SO RARE that it's pretty much non existent at the moment and that's why it makes it so strong. If this strategy wasn't rare we would see A LOT of 5 squads alive in the very last rings. And as we know that's never the case.
I'm assuming things because you change your point and your position in the argument every odd post. But the general and for sure answer still: Maybe you aren't as good as you think as you are. Maybe it's your aim, maybe it's how you play, maybe it's your smart. Buy you are losing. And it's easier to try to find why you are getting outplayed than trying to change the entire game so it doesn't happen.
After all you are complaining that people are getting "dishonest" victories simply because they are doing what you do against you and everyone is calling a truce JUST to kill your squad.
PS: If you want to see a lot of "disengage" go on Twitch TV and search for "wootystyle". It's a friend of mine that plays to win. he doesn't camp but he does think twice when pulling the trigger. And you will be impressed how often he does a "tactical" disengage. But that's because his play style allows it. Maybe you can learn a thing or 2.
Also he is a idiot that wants more deadly snipers, less shield and shorter ttk. If someone from respawn goes there: Ignore him, he is a fool.
March 2019
"So they called a truce but you didn't, you were the honorable one. That's why i assumed that you were the l33d player 2k19 with the aims."
You do understand sarcasm? How are teams going to call a literally truce on a BR? Why are you even focused on that satire statement?
"That doesn't happen/it's extremely rare."
No it is not. I play many games where it's up to 7-8 squads left by the 3 round.
"I had victories where my squad killed 3 guys, the last squad, but it was because we dropped far to get equipment, to avoid bringing fists to a gun fight, and ended not finding anyone for the rest of the match. Even when moving to place to place."
I drop far to find good gear and still end up coming in contact with 3 squads before the 2nd round, all of the time. Matter fact, most of the games I win are due to me dropping far, and my team comes out with an average of 12-14 squads kills. Average. That's a slow game too.
You are assuming things because you don't understand sarcasm, the slight times I used it, apparently.. and you are putting words in my mouth(posts).
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Yes but the fact that you somehow brag about something you just complained make all you say pointless. Because you change position every post.
Thats why i have to assume things. Because if i follow what tou write all i know is that you complain if it kills you.
14 players is 1/4 of the enemy pop. To brag about it being a "slow" game you either rush mindlessly or is lying.
The first one explain why everyone shoot at you and you cant disengage. So... maybe learn to not rush like a fool?
PS:i hate writtin on phone.
March 2019
He wants the game custom made so he always wins and never dies