December 2019
@pastaclown wrote:@Razzi8 How long did it actually take you to get all that up and running? I was curious, but don't really have time to be downloading XIMs or sourcing controllers.
@pastaclownHah as if you don't know that XIM is HW.
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I think there should be some way to recognize xim mods and not affect controller players like myself though if AA is already present I only tried mouse and keyboard for about a week when my controller joystick broke but it would be alot easier to experiment in a solo mode enviromenf or on a new account because literally everytime my 2 teammates died i wouldn’t even attempt that crap with M&K and would always go back to using controller because my movement during gunfights was trash because I was so new at it I probally would of stuck with M&K but I went on vacation for a month and a funeral and other things so I just came back and started using controller again because Its what I was familiar with
@FaIIenAngeI777You can train your M&K skills in almost any other FPS. CS GO for example, you can start with bots then go online for some team deathmatch.
And yes I hope Respawn and all the other devs finds a way to recognize when a controller is really used.
December 2019
@FaIIenAngeI777 It is possible to lock out fake controllers, not sure about XIM, never tried that and never will. I don't mind other players using controller and playing with AA, I think there's not much of em. More people use stuff only for AA. I guess it would take a while to create counter for fake controllers with XIM, while for emulators it would be fast. @pastaclown Took me couple of hours to get it done. I was about to do that a while back, since I found this topic I had to try it for myself.
December 2019
@radkal_0 oh so we're backtracking and completely forgetting that you didn't know what a settings menu was? Gotcha, authors gotta fix plot holes after all. Here's another one for you though, there's no aim assist toggle in the controllers setting either.
If we're talking native aim assist, then once again, naturally for M&K there is no aim assist. As sourced in your article, there is native aim assist for controllers playing on PC, but not for M&K players. Which is what I've been referring to the entire time. As, generally speaking, people play on PC because they don't like to play with controllers. Yet someone flew off the rail and started throwing accusations and insults before even clarifying what each of us were talking about.
In any case, since apparently you're confused, I'll say it simply for you to understand. There is no innate aim assist for PC. Innate means inborn, or natural, and as such, using a XIM, or a console controller could be considered unnatural. Maybe you should take your own advice and use Google instead of tossing insults, we're in the information age! There's much to learn. Also, once again, there's no way anyone can derail this discussion more than you can, especially since you're not talking to people, you're talking at them. You were doing so well with putting all your thoughts into one reply too. Unfortunate.
December 2019
@Razzi8 how well were you able to replicate what happened? Do tell, I'm actually quite curious as to how game-breaking this can be, especially with how I am, "...try to discredit a perfectly legit post as you are one of those MOUSE&AA exploiters getting exposed."
I gotta go along with their "I'm a cheater" thoughts, I haven't been called a hacker since I quit CoD console ten years ago! I missed it!
December 2019
@pastaclown A lot, at least looking at assist in fire range. Haven't tried it in a match, so not sure how would that look versus moving player. I guess you wouldn't even try to aim much. Game is gone anyway, you can always try for yourself. If you do versus player, lemme know if it's that huge.
December 2019
oh so we're backtracking and completely forgetting that you didn't know what a settings menu was?
@pastaclown Your claim, now you believe it.
Maybe you should take your own advice and use Google instead of tossing insults, we're in the information age!
Did you make a search before asking how long it take to set all this up as you don't have time to ''download'' a XIM. Obviously not... I do think you are playing dumb and have something to hide. Your behavior changed completely once I trapped you in your own mistake. Remember the question you couldn't answer and avoided by all means?
Also, once again, there's no way anyone can derail this discussion more than you can, especially since you're not talking to people, you're talking at them.
Please do read all this from the beginning and come back to me with the proof that I was derailing. You are the one derailing and avoiding the facts, jumping to conclusions and replying, since your first post defensively (which is very suspicious).
My first post was quite simple and the following ones as well. You are the only one who didn't understand. Think that's normal?
As I said in the early posts you have some understanding problems. Maybe even mental problems. You should promptly discuss with a psychiatrist if not done yet.
I sure hope you are a troll.
December 2019
My claim? We're just gonna pretend you didn't write this whole bit out?
"Where you looking for aim assist with mouse? Or where you playing Apex 8 years ago?
Confusion confusion..."
As if your little bubble wasn't full of holes already, now we're just being hypocritical. What a shame, I thought you'd actually have some decency to stick to your word.I haven't actually put any effort into any of my replies unfortunately. Or into the topic at hand. Don't need to. Because once again, you're lost in your own little world where you're right, and everyone else is hiding something. It's typical black and white thinking, and you see it a lot from people who haven't actually experienced the outside world. It ties in well with this whole, detective persona you've got going on.
If anyone is derailing anything, it's gotta be you. I put my opinion down, and you dove into it and started going off on a full tangent about how I'm hiding things, and cheating. Don't worry, I know you don't have the self-awareness to understand that you're being a child, which is why you want me to go back and re-read the full thread. I'll have to let you down gently though, since I don't want to shatter the already fragile bubble that you live in.
Here we go: I've been mocking you this entire time for how cringey and childish each of your replies has been. It's been monologue after monologue where you don't talk to the person you're addressing, you're talking at them. There hasn't been a single thing worth talking about this whole time, because let's face it, the topic thread was a generalized statement and not directed towards the real topic at hand AKA, XIMs and how enabling aim assist for PC players using a M&K is unfair and should be disabled. When offered my opinion that PC Apex has no innate aim-assist for M&K users not addressing XIMs, and also factoring in FallenAngel777s response of not having aim assist enabled despite using a controller, you went off on your own little tangent overthinking a written response and coming to the conclusion that I was a cheater and that I was hiding something, and even to this moment nothing has changed your mind. Every response after that was asking me to prove to you that I wasn't a cheater, but let's face it, with how juvenile you are, nothing I say or do will change your mind. Because like I said, you live in your own fantasy bubble where you're the winner all the time. Every response from you was grasping at straws to regain control over that fantasy, and the moment you started thinking you had me "cornered" you went right back to writing monologues and talking at people, rather than with them. Your black and white thinking, coupled with your immense leaps in judgement are pretty pathetic, especially coming from someone who tries so hard to be right at every stage of the game. I keep telling you, you're the only one derailing the "discussion", because in the first place you weren't intending to have a discussion, yet you've completely ignored it every time I brought it up.
Anyways, I'll leave this here. It was fun for a while, now it's just sad. Bye~
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@Razzi8To test it out on a moving player you could get a friend in the firing range with you and just turn on friendly fire to test it on an actual legend
December 2019