August 2020
@E9ine_AC Yes I agree with you. But they are cheaters, I am comparing how a situation would play out on a PC player using m+k and a console player using a controller, both playing fair without cheats or macros. Not fake m+k users abusing controller aim assist or aimbotters, they can obviously not be included in a conversation like this. Cheating is another issue all by itself.
I did see the video posted above, but that does not translate to real combat. That is pretty much the only situation a controller would be on par with m+k. A vanilla 1v1, few meter distance, flat ground situation. Now, add some variables like different elevation, cover like a wall or a pillar, more than 1 targets at a time, point blank range or a range bigger than the one shown in the video , actual recoil, and the list goes on. (Try using the Havoc with a controller)
Especially in point blank range, which is the complaint of OP, a mouse user can just twitch around a 360 degree radius and hit a target. Good luck doing that with a controller. You are going to be killed long before you can turn your analog stick to even have line of sight of the opponent (with low turning speed), or you are going to overshoot your opponent (with high turning speed).
The accuracy and precision of a mouse just can't be matched by a controller.
I have played shooters for years with a controller, and only ever occasionally get the chance to play with m+k cause I don't have a gaming PC. If I could somehow clone myself, give him a mouse and have myself play with a controller against him, he would destroy me so badly it wouldn't even be funny. Mouse aiming is intuitive, controller aiming is not.
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@audiofilomx
can you test if the Aim assist also works in smoke (bangladesh and caustic), i watched someone in my last game. it looked like a bit strange, he followed people with his crosshair (smooth) in smoke without seeing them.
August 2020
Its not trust me, try to play with a controller yourself and you’ll see. I play apex the majority on ps4 and when hop onto my pc I dont even have to try to control the recoil, it feels so better, so much more natural from the small adjustments and flicks. People who complain about controllers have to realize theyre worse than those players skillwise, dont make excuses.
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@nvstrike not so sure, what if someone use a Cronusmax with a "no recoil" script?
August 2020
I agree. We asked to remove all the cheaters. And what did they do? They added a legal cheaters. Absolutely stupid decision!
Just give us an option to play with only the kb/ms players.
August 2020
Thats definitely unfair towards others that are using legit controllers. But still KBM is superior when it comes to gunplay type games like Apex. Maybe itll help you alot against pc players but any person whos proficient with kbm will outgun them. Movement is horrible with a controller so you will have to rely on perfect accuracy to compete with a kbm person.
August 2020
@nvstrike
You know that Cronus Zen can emulate that you use a controller on PC to get the Aim Assist, even when you use M/K?
Also it is a problem, that it is a device between m/k and pc, scripts were executed directly in that device and the anti cheat software can't detect that because there is no process in the background on your PC.
i don't wanna advertising that device, i just wanna say that such devices ruining multiplayer online games.
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