Why is everyone complaining so much about the new specialist system?

[ninjapenquinuk]

@Trokey66 if it is just classes done differently then thats all hunky dory, but from the sparse bit of info DICE have deigned to give us, there doesnt seem to be much to differentiate each specialist other than a single perk/gadget. It looks like its just everyone (potentially) has an assault rifle, rocket launcher, revive ability, some kind of grenade, and then a single point of difference, some of which - grappling hook or winged suit, isnt even helpful to the team.

[TankerFlanker]

I just don't like hearing 'specialists' BO4 immediately comes to mind and I really hated how the classes/specialist were in that so much I stopped playing before I had it even a week. I just don't personally think it's a thing that belongs in Battlefield because it makes me feel like they're moving away from Battlefield, don't get me wrong the gameplay trailer looks amazing and that's what they wanted but with the specialist it's just a tad concerning to me. I guess we'll find out in the beta though how good or bad they are for gameplay.

[Schlep2112]

@Neovisi0n Gosh, I'm slow. It just dawned on me WHY this change was made. They are going to make a ton of money off of MTX from people buying skins.

[DingoKillr]

@TickTack121 I just had an argument a few days ago where the guy said if DICE remove the names and the backstory was not needed.

I will make it clear names and backstory is irrelevant they are for marketing to sell the game. DICE is a business they need to make money.

The classes are still there.

Don't count on Beta showing the meta, BFV beta changed twice before release.

[Trokey66]

@ninjapenquinukWe shall have to wait and see.

Don't get me wrong, I have concerns too but we know too little to make any firm judgements and demands for change are premature in my opinion.

And no matter what system is used, there will be players that chose specialists/load outs/classes or whatever, totally oblivious to the team effort. 

[tempo_rarity]

A strange thought on the Thread Titles "Why..?"

No one wants to learn how to drive in a Standard Shift way .

Especially those who love driving in the Automatic ways .

?

I drive expertly in GTA V - my all-time fave is the faux-Porsche .

'Enter' is 'drive' , then it's just gas - brake - steering .

Not much to think about while driving except looking ahead .

Not so in a future GTA MMXLII : my Porsche is now Standard Shift .

'Enter' is enter , but now it's clutch - shift - gas - brake - steering

. . . it's . . gonna be a while before I'm an expert driver in GTA2042 .

In this future BattlefieldMMXLII , we will have these same "experts" .

They are already here , and in actuality , are 'Specialists' themselves .

We know them well too ; as expert Run-n-Gunner , Tanker , Flier etc .

These 'new' Specialists upcoming will be their new Clutch / Shift .

Their old 'leisure drives' in their old 'Automatic' ways is going away .

Replaced by a chance of missing/grinding gears , caused by 'Specialist' .

Overall I think this bodes very well towards a resurgence of Teamwork .

I think - If 'teamwork' was a commodity , I'd invest heavily .

I think too - highly 'disliked' at the moment , 'Specialists' will be loved . 

[ZombieP1ow]

@tempo_rarity I agree, the specialist and the Plus system will allow a medic to lend a quick hand on a pesky tank or helicopter. Instead of fleeing the area because they're defenseless, now they can stick around to assist the dedicated engineers. I think this is going to "up" the skill level of the players overall. Pilots and tankers are going to have to improve, and infantry will improve to match the pilots and tankers.

[Jiraya83]

@Neovisi0n The problem is not about system, is cosmetic, so for me is not a problem

[ninjapenquinuk]

@ZombieP1ow but thats been the whole point of the BF games, and why you are supposed to use team/squad work. If an enemy tank is causing grief, next time you die, and you will die unless you are a rare god like player (or has a handy medic in constant close attention),you then spawn in as a class with anti tank hardware. If the team was dumb enough not to and carry on being snipers or medics ect then the team deserved to get pummeled by the tanker. It seems like more and more, squads are just there as mobile spawn points and for mates to communicate together. May as well just do away with them.

[DingoKillr]

@ninjapenquinuk one of the biggest problem past BF class had many people played a class to upgrade weapons not to play the a secondary role. More players played the easier killer class the Action Engineer for bragging rights and had no interest in teamplay, as teamplay is there to support them.

The Specialist solves some of this while creating flexibility. Firstly a Medic can use what every gun so they can always play Medic. Secondly you could have a squad of 4 Sundance with different gadgets medic, ammo, RPG or sensors and with similar weapons so they can keep together. Lastly you could have a Anti-tank squad with 4 RPG user with different specialist.