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GutmanSca
5 years ago

What character/abilities you want to see getting Reworked?

This is an interesting topic I've been discussing with friends and experienced players.

Reworking something is difficult, but the result can be really good and cause a better performance for a character or ability, so it is a viable move.

So, say in this post: what ability or character you want to be reworked? What would be this rework? 

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  • CharlesHlcBende's avatar
    CharlesHlcBende
    5 years ago

    I want Spikeweed will be reworked. Give it special merit over Potato Mine.

    And Sunbeam. Give it special merit over Pea Gatling. For example, can heal plants a bit by Sunbeam.

  • agqwpe663oe6's avatar
    agqwpe663oe6
    5 years ago
    @GutmanSca Probably grody goop. I like how it got reworked in gw2 so chomper isn’t pure crap when there isnt 1 chomper and you aren’t doomed to be eaten without a teammate. however, it does way too much damage. I think it should do 35 damage initial and 2 damage per tick
  • aikohu's avatar
    aikohu
    5 years ago

    @CharlesHlcBendel  Probably you didn't notice but there is a secret difference between Sunbeam and Pea Gatling. Pea Gatling haves a faster start time and Sunbeam has a faster end time. Almost zero end time. Just information.

  • SundropDot's avatar
    SundropDot
    5 years ago
    @GutmanSca I have many abilities and characters that I want reworks to, but I will only list ones I think are important.

    -Sunflower and Scientist to have to earn healing points to then be able to use their healing ability (Hose or beam). I don't like the very low skill level to use these abilities.

    -Engineer. He is way too problematic for two reasons. 1. He is very annoying and 2. He does not fill the support role that well. I think he should be altered to better fit the role.

    -Chomper's Burrow and Spikeweed. Spikeweed is pretty useless most times and Burrow will continue to be an issue until it is changed to be more skill based.

    -Snapdragon's Blue blazes. Less of a bad ability and more of a does not really make sense ability. Snapdragon is a crowd control character and I don't really see the crowd control in this. I rather a fire grenade to cause fire to remain on the floor. It would help him accomplish his job much better.

    -Nightcap. I just want her to be more assassin based instead on bhopping based. Not a large rework though.
  • Shadowphinx101's avatar
    Shadowphinx101
    5 years ago
    @GutmanSca Engineer needs a MASSIVE rework. I think Scientist, as support needs one aswell, because he feels too offensive. The Teamp-Up Mechanics on Oak and Acorn need to be reworked because they are terrible and have no incentive to use the class for their intended purpose. I think all the advanced movement abilities also need worked out.
  • Jacob2of3's avatar
    Jacob2of3
    5 years ago

    @GutmanSca  Imp kata needs a rework or to be replaced. making a mobile character with low hp sit still is bad no matter how you balance it. 

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Reworking something is difficult, but the result can be really good and cause a better performance for a character or ability, so it is a viable move.

So, say in this post: what ability or character you want to be reworked? What would be this rework? 

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Reworking something is difficult, but the result can be really good and cause a better performance for a character or ability, so it is a viable move.

So, say in this post: what ability or character you want to be reworked? What would be this rework? 

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I want Spikeweed will be reworked. Give it special merit over Potato Mine.

And Sunbeam. Give it special merit over Pea Gatling. For example, can heal plants a bit by Sunbeam.

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@CharlesHlcBendel  Probably you didn't notice but there is a secret difference between Sunbeam and Pea Gatling. Pea Gatling haves a faster start time and Sunbeam has a faster end time. Almost zero end time. Just information.

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-Sunflower and Scientist to have to earn healing points to then be able to use their healing ability (Hose or beam). I don't like the very low skill level to use these abilities.

-Engineer. He is way too problematic for two reasons. 1. He is very annoying and 2. He does not fill the support role that well. I think he should be altered to better fit the role.

-Chomper's Burrow and Spikeweed. Spikeweed is pretty useless most times and Burrow will continue to be an issue until it is changed to be more skill based.

-Snapdragon's Blue blazes. Less of a bad ability and more of a does not really make sense ability. Snapdragon is a crowd control character and I don't really see the crowd control in this. I rather a fire grenade to cause fire to remain on the floor. It would help him accomplish his job much better.

-Nightcap. I just want her to be more assassin based instead on bhopping based. 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I think Scientist, as support needs one aswell, because he feels too offensive. The Teamp-Up Mechanics on Oak and Acorn need to be reworked because they are terrible and have no incentive to use the class for their intended purpose. 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@GutmanSca  Imp kata needs a rework or to be replaced. making a mobile character with low hp sit still is bad no matter how you balance it. 

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