The Havoc is trash and need buff and changes

[packerattacker]

No it's not....

[crackla247]

@OldManSkillsTV I know it’s an older post. But honestly I hate the charge time on the havoc. Cause by the tile it charges up in most cases you’re shields are already broke and it’s not powerful enough to put do other guns in combat. Now if they would make it to where aiming would make it charge up a bit kinda like aiming a mini gun, I think that’d be cool.

[pastaclown]

@crackla247 an old thread but! Math!

Did you know that the Volt has a lower TTK for targets at 200 health compared to the Havoc (0.9195 seconds compared to Havoc's 0.9821 seconds)?

Did you know at 225 health the Volt and Havoc have the same TTK? https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/S8-Wraith/m-p/9946553#M130666

So despite the Havoc coming out before the Volt, the Havoc is basically a crappier Volt. Both in terms of DPS, and overall accuracy. A shame. 

[Guiltygear-Z]

@pastaclown That is fine, there should not be only perfect weapons.

Not all pistols or shotguns are equal either, if you have a havoc and see a volt there is no1 stopping you to swap them.

[DarthValtrex]

@pastaclown I'll take a havoc with a turbo over a volt.. Headshot multiplier on the havoc is brutal.

That is unless I'm playing bang and have a digital threat in that case I'll go with a volt.

[Lord_Scorpion34]

@Guiltygear-Z I prefer Volt over Hav.

[Daze623]

@pastaclown "Why do I even bother with Havoc when Volt does the job but better?"
-Me while I was running Havoc without turbo

[Cro_Pittt]

Havoc with turbocharger is one of the best gun out there. Change my mind.

[Daze623]

@Cro_Pittt yeah it's like a gold addon is strong or something...

[hayhor]

@Daze623 And here I am hoping the selectfire havoc comes back. 🤣