Re: Troubleshooting for EA/Respawn and Multiplay
by apostolateofDOOMOriginal Post
@DoYaSeeMeI don't deny there's likely a cost and potentially a heavy one for them over time but with more comp teams entering the fray, i think it'll be a worthy investment if they get to it asap. You're right though, it's a complex subject and i admit i lack experience but as an end user all i can do is highlight an issue that we have and provide as much information as possible for them to determine where the problem is and improve it, if possible. I still believe they can.
Mine isn't an isolated or even rare case as most people experience these issues but some don't know how to express that constructively instead of the ''EA/Respawn servers are trash'' or ''fix your game'' or ''they just want money and don't care about users experience as it's a business'' ect.. I wanted to develop the thread in a positive way that people could interact and possibly have a positive outcome from and i welcome input from people like you who know more on the subject, even if we disagree.
I have learnt a bit over the course of this thread and more confident now they could make those improvement if they decided to, but yes, it'll cost them to do it but they have the resources if it's pushed through multiple avenues feeling it's wanted and a worthy investment.
@OldTreeCreeper It's been that long since i watched it i barely remember. Time to hit up some old classics! Last time i did that in sci fi i lost nearly 3 months. 
@DoYaSeeMe ''Their former lead network engineer, Jon Shiring, was pretty open to the public. You can find some interesting bits about the Titanfall 2 servers and game engine and some messaging between him and Battle(non)sense in that link in your inbox 
'' If i can draw you back in for a moment? 
The link you sent me: "Tickrate is about ai and not about player experience at all." GGWP : titanfall (reddit.com)
The conclusion of that discussion is basically Jon (imslothy) contradicting himself trying to sidestep what people were asking about throughout (which was pretty clear what they were asking and devs do have a habit of overcomplicating things ) playing word games about what they use internally being different to most other titles with one of the last posts being...
''Yes, I agree about the contradictions. u/slothy seems hung up on the semantics. When random people in the community show their concern by asking about "tickrate" -- they are really asking about the server-to-client update rate. After hearing his responses for a while now, I think he knows this, but doesn't want to focus attention on the 20hz update rate because he believes the cost-to-benefit ratio of using anything higher doesn't make sense for their game. Fair enough. If it is simply a business decision, I can understand that. But don't sit here and tell your hardcore fan base that you've got a cutting edge FPS networking implementation. I'm sure it's a model of robustness and efficiency when it comes to minimizing operating costs, but 20hz has no place anywhere as an update rate to the world state in any fast paced FPS game.
Probably, the subset of players who actually care that much about the game to hope for a baseline of 60hz are too few to matter to them, from a design perspective.''
After reading it all, this last post makes a lot of sense. As ranked and casual are already split ques and i know it will use a lot more server resources and increase their costs but like custom lobbies in other games, couldn't we have higher refreshed environments for ranked and comp?
Re: Troubleshooting for EA/Respawn and Multiplay
