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Re: Remove gold knockdown shields in ranked? People are crying for rank changes

@Cro_Pittt Same here. I can’t suggest a better RP system in ranked but there’s definitely something off about the current system on how we get RP.

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Most of them were saying, that allowing demotion in ranks, would entice higher level players to intentionally lose RP and derank to go farm lower ranks.

I am one to praise demotion, P4 and D4 are notorious when it comes to time spent within those tiers, and for obvious reasons. If not demotion, then pls change the RP system, make it less rewarding so that Gold players can't make the jump to P4 so damn easily, same with Plat to D4.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2021-08-27T05:04:25.549-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-08-27T05:04:25.549-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1021},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":2,"readOnly":false,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:9":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:9","position":21,"name":"Hero","color":"ED8B00","icon":null,"rankStyle":"FILLED"},"User:user:228494":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:228494","uid":228494,"login":"hayhor","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-09-16T18:06:16.191-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/images/dS0yMjg0OTQtT2x4dURG?image-coordinates=0%2C0%2C220%2C220"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:9"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:228494"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:5613986":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:5613986","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:5613986":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:228494"},"id":"message:5613986","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:apex-legends-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en/message:5613980/message:5613986","revisionNum":1,"uid":5613986,"depth":4,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:5613984"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:5613980"},"subject":"Re: Remove gold knockdown shields in ranked? People are crying for rank changes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:5613986"},"body":"@Gabrielmojo26 The problem with demotion is it would allows the same thing that happens in fifa- people self relegating themselves. The reason it cannot happen in apex is the game is team based. A bunch of self relegators would ruin other people's games. And yes I know the ones hard stuck do that now but it would probably be even worse.

The issue I have with ranked is allowed smurfs to jump right into it. And if you dont play ranked you can fall all the way back. Smurfs and high levels dropping back ruin the new player lobbies. In season 9 I only played like 20 or so games of ranked in bronze and silver and 75% of my killers had pred/masters badges or 4k/20 bombs. I cannot imagine how that feels for a new player.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2021-08-27T05:15:35.678-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-08-27T05:15:35.678-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1013},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":1,"readOnly":false,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:5613987":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:5613987","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:5613987":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:4641068"},"id":"message:5613987","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:apex-legends-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en/message:5613980/message:5613987","revisionNum":1,"uid":5613987,"depth":5,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:apex-legends-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:5613986"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:5613980"},"subject":"Re: Remove gold knockdown shields in ranked? People are crying for rank changes","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:5613987"},"body":"

@hayhorThere's probably a way to implement a demotion system that doesn't allow you to be demoted from lets say Masters, all the way down to, Silver.

Something needs to budge tho, for example, giving more RP to the last standing teammate, just brain storming here.

What I do know is, typical games of Plat 4 lobbies, are the jumpmaster diving frag thinking it'll be the same outcome as he had in Gold lobbies, they insta die, and the better player ends up solo, with the option of going for a suicide mission to recover banners, or hoping for a quick kill off the drop to rat himself to a 5th place finish to recoup a few measly rank points.

This is honestly 80% of Plat 4 games, and if you do get lucky with a few good games in a row, you'll lose the acquired RP within all the bad ones that follow. I find myself needing to be a really selfish teammate in order to rank up from Plat 4, and we all know what that brings to the table, toxicity!

I should add, this is my experience as a solo queuing player, which rank has never been rewarding to.

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