Re: The old scoreboard

One of the big no-go's is if we have no visibility nor any control on far out of region players joining into our local game servers! 

The main reason for bullet sponging and rubberbanding in the BF game.

We absolutely need to insist to have the scoreboard with the ping information for each player on the server!

There will be a specialist who can show the scoreboard

@m1k3ol have you a official source for us or is this just your personal speculation?

I don’t get why DICE does not simply say yes or no to whether a normal scoreboard will be in this game. They don’t really have anything to gain by letting people speculate/worry about it.

There is a "Scoreboard" but it's not a tradional one if you look close. That what we saw on the "Open beta" showed your stats and the stats of your Squad and that is great. You don't need to know how "other players" are playing, as long as you and your squad is doing well. If the tickets fall very fast you also know that your Team is playing really weak so you don't need a "Scoreboard" neither. A Scoreboard to detect cheaters? Well by a "180-0" you are right, this seems very obvious however just because someone is playing 78-1 or 86-3 or even 68-0 doesn't mean the person is cheating, so people who doesn't know to play well will report the player who are playing that "stats" and report them falsely. A Scoreboard is nice, specially when you play with friends however I am also glad that DICE is brave enough to change the formula for the Scoreboard, I can't wait to see how it will  look 1 year after release, if a few routines/guides/metas are available and if the new Scoreboard will actually help to improve "PTFO" more or not.

It is true. The old scoreboard is gone. 

I hate the new one. Hate it. 

Scoreboard does not mean much to me.
I play to have fun.

My position or stats on the scoreboard does not matter in that sense.

Nor does the stats of others.

remember 2nd place is the first to lose.........

@SirBobdk ,

Still a bit sad though now if not having a scoreboard to rattle the wannabees a bit, aka by making the highest game round score, get the MVP ribbon, all while having accomplished zero kills of enemies.  (except the unfortunate times an enemy got zapped to death by accident in the mess, when I tried to revive as many of my dead mates as possible in the slaughterhouse). 😀

@CyberDyme 

True. 
Of course, it can also be a way to see if dodgy players have unrealistic stats that should be investigated.

Especially now when we can ban / kick players. Then we are back to the fact that the game lacks spectate mode and recorder.

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@cso7777 wrote:
@SirBobdkWhile I hope the AC will be better in BF2042 (it has to), we will still have cheaters to some extend, and finding them through the scoreboard should still be possible.

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yep, that was also my conclusion when I thought more about it.

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@SirBobdk wrote:

@CyberDyme 

True. 
Of course, it can also be a way to see if dodgy players have unrealistic stats that should be investigated.

Especially now when we can ban / kick players. Then we are back to the fact that the game lacks spectate mode and recorder.

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Exactly THAT @SirBobdk ,

Is my biggest need for a full scoreboard!

I don't even see yet how EA now will enable us to mark any player to report as part of the AC initiatives they have been praising loud on all they now will do for us in this area, if we do not now have a scoreboard with everybody on it?? 

And we also absolutely need it to see the ping rate for each player, so we can keep our servers responsive for our players and not allow far out of region players to bring it down with bullet sponging and rubber-banding it to death for the many other players playing it from the local server region.

I'm not absolutely fixated by my stats at all but a useful scoreboard does have practical uses. Looking to see if vehicles are killing everyone so a change of class/gadget might be in order, checking to see a squad mate isn't 1/15 before spawning on them. I'm sure I could think of others if I wasn't struggling to keep my eyes open.

I'd be surprised if it went, but I can see there may be problems with displaying longer lists with increased number of players (I could never work out how to scroll down with BF4, and believe me there were plenty of times when I needed to!) ... and a whole can of worms with AI. Would their stats be included? That would be interesting to see!.