Re: Did ME:A aim at the younger crowd ruin the game? My thoughts.

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Re: Did ME:A aim at the younger crowd ruin the game? My thoughts.

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I would of went with the three most common complaints are:

 

1) WHAT is up with the faces?

2) Why isn't this more like the original series?

3) Really. WHY isn't this more like the original series?!?!Standard smile

 

They did choose a different way of storytelling and to shift focus from instant hero to spending the game creating one. It is like you got to play out Shep's backstory culminating with your final character choice. Not sure what they're planning to do with it. Episodic adventures? Now the saga to save Andromeda really begins? We drop this story completely and tell a different one from a different perspective in the same setting?

 

Once I got over it not being ME1-3 it isn't that bad of a game. I still backslide sometimes, and still miss the original series and wish it were more of the same, but I also kinda want to move forward with this one.

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@jpcerutti1 wrote:

I would of went with the three most common complaints are:

 

1) WHAT is up with the faces?

2) Why isn't this more like the original series?

3) Really. WHY isn't this more like the original series?!?!Standard smile

 

They did choose a different way of storytelling and to shift focus from instant hero to spending the game creating one. It is like you got to play out Shep's backstory culminating with your final character choice. Not sure what they're planning to do with it. Episodic adventures? Now the saga to save Andromeda really begins? We drop this story completely and tell a different one from a different perspective in the same setting?

 

Once I got over it not being ME1-3 it isn't that bad of a game. I still backslide sometimes, and still miss the original series and wish it were more of the same, but I also kinda want to move forward with this one.


it really is an ok game. as i've said a few times, it's just for bioware an ok game is basically a bad game, in comparison.

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I agree with you. I mean, I understand that most of the Tempest's crew is young and rookie. But throughout the game you get that feeling most of the people that came to Andromeda are the best of the best from the Milky Way galaxy. The fact that they're young isn't related as how they react to the general things.
They know why they're in Andromeda, it's like Star Trek, you don't send stupid people to command a ship.
I really like most of the characters and their background stories. But sometimes you need to take things seriously.
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@Grekinski wrote:
But sometimes you need to take things seriously.

Yeah, that's a lingering feeling I have regarding the game finesse and refinement, actually.

 

A blunt example is that Drunk Lady on Eos. Why someone found it was a nice idea placing that useless information there? Someone might have thought it was fun, and that it would be a joke? Aside the first impact we have by watching her there, what does that mean exactly? Really, if I was 12-13 yo, and I can actually affirm that because I remember my mind and how I used to like some things back then, I would have cried laughing so hard. Alas, I'm not 12-13 any more, and 12-13 cannot – weren't supposed to – play this game with a PEGI set to 17. So, why the drunk lady?

 

This is just a small blur of the smear of ... strange decisions made designing that game, and the fact that it reflects upon the feeling of targetting lower audiences might be for the slack of seriousness it transpires every now and then.

 

Of course, I'm merely talking about subjective things here and about my perception.

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PandaTar wrote:

 

This is just a small blur of the smear of ... strange decisions made designing that game, and the fact that it reflects upon the feeling of targetting lower audiences might be for the slack of seriousness it transpires every now and then.

 


 

That's what im talking about. The lack of seriousness, which can be good sometime, in this game is misplaced. You made a good example with the drunk lady and the same can be said for some of Liam's childish lines during important quests.

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1. The story of ME:A is not particularly bad, but it's definitely missing storytelling flavor: voice acting, tone, mood, etc. That's why it seems lighter. There are a few tense moments, such as Asari, Salarian Arc, that i can recall right now. But overall the game doesn't pull enough emotional state on the player, it's not as engaging as previous MEs.

 

2. Yes, dialogues need better acting, at least the main story and some main quests.

 

3. I don't really mind how Ryder is. Different type of person, not military, new to leadership, diplomacy, has some humor, sarcasm Standard smile

 

The thing here is that the setup is new, "Ryder & co" arrived in an unknown galaxy, they are not established yet, facing the unknown, finding ways to deal with it. Resources are also limited. Age doesn't bother me either. You can have all sorts of ages... IF its well acted and screen played. Mostly that's whats missing here. Probably the tension in Andromeda will grow in the next game, and we will have stronger engaging moments, more authority, more problems, more threats to deal with. 

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@RoastPotato26 wrote:

Or they just wanted to start off with a complete newbie (even if he wasnt completely new on handling a gun but having such burden on his shoulders) who might become what Shepard was, or close to him in the future.
What i missed is the violence that Shepard brought many times. He's the most alpha i met in the video games i played so farLarge smile and its because of his attitude,his looks (default) and his voice that made a perfect mix of the character he is.
Ryder is a much younger one, you dont feel that he's confident enough, whatever option i choose in conversations doesnt sound as confident or good as if Shepard would say it. But it doesnt mean he's a bad character, he just needs time. You killed by yourself what... 2-3 characters in the cutscenes by yourself overall? And even then it wasnt that satisfying or bada*s. Give him time. Alec was something like Shep, but could be thats what they tried to avoid, to control again a character that already have experience on the field and being a leader.

However i laughed when the crew just walked off twice without Ryder telling them the meeting is over...and nobody was giving a damn what he's barking afterwards. That felt like not even the crew members are respecting Ryder enough to let him finish what he's saying.


Just compare the 2 cutscenes below

From 1:45 till 3:55
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First meeting on tempest

Again, this is because he's young and unexperienced and the crew members are at the same age like him or older. Would be a different case with Alec standing there. Ryder just ned to figure out himself and he's set.


Yeah, agreed! Ryder is completely new to all this , specially leadership. Shepard had long life military experience.

 

LOL i laughed at that scene as well. Funny Standard smile

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@draqonin wrote:

3. I don't really mind how Ryder is. Different type of person, not military, new to leadership, diplomacy, has some humor, sarcasm Standard smile


 

Yeah, that needs to be stressed. I think what's lacking is the complexity of characters, regardless one's profile, if humorous or not, and when they were designing the game, it looked like too many silly and cannon stuff was added without reason, joking with the product, giving it an air of carelessness I cannot really pinpoint exactly, but it's there.

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@Abex81 wrote:

@Vellu78@Vellu78 wrote:

. Not sure what "youth troubles" you are referring to. Or dialogue. Nothing specific stood out to me (2 playthroughs). It's not emmy winning narrative for sure, but I did not find it "immature" at all.


Just look at Liam, the cringe starts from the beginning when he shoots the aliens and then how he deliveries his lines and his behaviour throughout the game(with some kind of redemption at the end).

Totally unprofessional for a crisis specialist.

He is young and immature...  not fit for the role.

You can tell me he is goofy and funny and i can agree to some extent. But that only adds up to the shift in tone i'm talking about.


That scene with Liam at the beginning gave me a complete dislike towards him. Specially the way he talks. Would have been Vega doing it???.... that would've been totally fine  hehe

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@RoastPotato26 wrote:

@Psych0_Trauma wrote:

 

...BUT Drak is more humorous that Liam.

 

I really feel like the team doesn't FULLY take in the seriousness of the plot (both in game AND back in Montreal). Yeah you are some noob little spitfuck that has no real knowledge of the situation...but regardless BOTH Ryder's and Alec had some form of formal training from the Alliance. This laxxed "I don't know what to do" attitude is mind numbingly boring, and I think the real reason behind that is because WE lack an ACTUAL Para/Ren system. It down plays the story as bland because of that, AND because no matter what you say the other option says the EXACT SAME THING. I'd rather play as a gd Krogan.


Drack has probably the most character and best quotes among the crew members so comparing him to Liam is not a good comparison although Liam aint that bad character as many people think but whatever, its just my opinion.

 

Your crew here consists mostly of people with the same age like you, simply because at that age they thought its a good thing to start a new life somewhere else. Which is why Alec brought the team together like that, young people usually having better ideas, more keen to explore and try new things. Because thats when people do the stupidest,craziest things, as we get older many habits die, we get sloppier and so on. Obviously they are not dedicated veterans/warlords (Wrex), person with perfect genes (Miranda), a justicar (Samara) or the craziest biotic in the galaxy (Jack) just to name a few. But thats the point, now you start from 0 with your team and get more and more insight of whats going on around you instead of getting a crew full of professionals and a hero like Shepard, which is why its not called ME4.

 

There is a paragon/renegade system, called quick time events. For example shooting the Cardinal, shooting Reyes, hugging Cora - in the trilogy the previous 2 would be marked with red icon, while the last one blue. Its even telling you what's gonna happen.

 


Yeah, I've said it before, Drak is really good at acting. Even if the lines are simple, he knows how to make them sound good Standard smile Vetra too, Turians in general.  But the Asari not really. I remember many Asari having way better tones in previous ME: Consort, Liara, Nassana Dantius, the Asari Spectre, the police officer when recruiting Samara, Aria, even the Asari at stores or assistants. I understand these are younger, but they have different tones, tempers.... i don't know... just missing something

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