DICE You gotta vault the RAH-68

[AJ_Clickz]

It's absolutely dominating in Breakthrough. With its "stealth mode" its farming infantry players and its impossible to take down. 

By the way who the hell thought that it would be a good idea to make a chopper immune to anti-air? 

[SkyL4Ncer21]

@AJ_Clickz Use the new TV guided missile to take them down or use the anti air tank, the new heli is incredibly weak against bullets

[UP_Hawxxeye]

There is a reason we got that new specialist with the manually guided missile.

Though my preferred means of taking it out would be using a jet or a wildcat.

I will be doing a lot of practice with the new specialist missiles.

[SkyL4Ncer21]

@UP_Hawxxeye Not to mention the osprey and the Hind are still the king of the skies all air vehicles are absolutely wrecked and stand no chance

[TheLocalTroll]

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@AJ_Clickz wrote:

By the way who the hell thought that it would be a good idea to make a chopper immune to anti-air? 

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The same guys who thought it was a good idea to equip m5c bolte 40 mm canon and have 3-7 of these driving around on each map. Or have a bunch of nightbirds flying around along with jets and Attack helis. 

So give it 6 months and they may have come to their senses and done something about it like they did with Bolte and Nightbirds. 

And just wait til people have unlocked the 30 mm canons on those new helis and they can do a "go stealth, drop HE bombs, turn of stealth, * inf with 30 mm canon and use flares while HE bombs reload, switch back to stealth and use HE bomb while flares reloads. Rinse and repeat until someone either lucks in enough TGM's or someone on other team decided to use a jet instead of the new heli. 

[edgecrusherO0]

@AJ_Clickz Liz is literally the counter. She's the counter to all air/armor in general at this point.

I don't think that's a GOOD solution vs. actually trying to find a way to make vehicles fit in with the game (they absolutely don't still, hence why DICE is still shifting them between vehicles classes and dropping numbers) or more options via gadgets (dumbfire rockets, TV rocket as a gadget etc.) but it's something.

Given there's only one active at any time, it's not terribly hard to take out so far. Condors/Hinds are still laying out way more hurt in my experience playing since the patch.

[TheLocalTroll]

tbh Lis is hardly a counter to the new stealth helis unless the pilot is stupid and stands still in the air.

When I fly one of those Lis is my least worry. You can hear the G-84 come from miles away and all you need to do is to fly a little erradic and they will miss.

Even if one do hit you you just pop your repair and your good to go.

Also when people starts unlocking flares and 30 mm canons the stealth heli can be deadly to inf as they can switch between stealth + he bombs and 30mm + flares.

The true counter to the stealth helis are Nightbirds, jets, condors/hind and wildcat. Miniguns and similar shreds those down fast.

Counter as inf is not Lis but you can hack the heli with Rao. Hacking the heli removes the stealth and prevents it from popping flares. Then everyone got a short window to use your FXM-33 and that heli is down fast. And that hacking thing also work vs condor/hind to make them easy targets as well.

[CPU_UK]

It would be nice if Stealth had a cool-down like everything else in the game.

[protoman23]

@CPU_UKit does have a cool down.

[cso7777]

@edgecrusherO0The rock/paper/scissor system has become a joke with the specialists. We have too many specific "counters" to too many specific "problems".

In the older titles we had this issue as well. People didn't using relevant weapons/gadgets/classes in the old titles, now the problem has multiplied with the specialist system.

The system with grinding for unlocks/battlepasses etc, makes people play for selfish reasons, more than playing for helping the team.