As Caustic main, I'm pissed, after the last patch, enemy can easily destroy trap before it fully deployed by shooting them.
Well, this's insult to already very slowed deploy trap, now, when Caustic have a battle outside the building, try to create/control the zone, putting traps , enemy simply destroy it very easily, so basically caustic got exposed with big body, without any ability to protect himself.
I can't push enemy anymore with trap, trap only usefull inside the building now (pre-set up), so basically they force Caustic to stay inside a building.
I like to hear from other caustic main, what do you guys think ?
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Well, this's insult to already very slowed deploy trap, now, when Caustic have a battle outside the building, try to create/control the zone, putting traps , enemy simply destroy it very easily, so basically caustic got exposed with big body, without any ability to protect himself.
I can't push enemy anymore with trap, trap only usefull inside the building now (pre-set up), so basically they force Caustic to stay inside a building.
I like to hear from other caustic main, what do you guys think ?
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they shouldnt have been usable as a throw in middle in fight thingy in the first place.
He has the fortified passive cuz he is fat.
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Everybody who complains about caustic chiefly references the fact that he's a camper.
For people like me who play caustic pretty often, but in a highly aggressive manner this has basically screwed us over by forcing us to building camp.
You're basically given the choice of sit in a building or not use your tactical at all now...which sucks.
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I think they need to give at least 40-50 HP so need at least 4-5 bullets to destroy it.
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What I'd much prefer is a quicker activation time. Any spud can quickly disable a trap that takes like 3 seconds to activate fully.
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But How Caustic suppose to control the zone now ??
1. His trap is very slow to deploy.
2. His trap cannot be thrown far away.
3. His trap now can be easily destroyed !
Respawn just took out his tactical and his critical function: Zone Control. ☹️
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All that so we can call gas barrels \"traps\" now?
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Also you are equating aggressive Caustics with Bunker camping/trapping, which is what every single Caustic on this post wants to counter and discourage, and comparing Caustic gas to Grapple, which was both a mobility tool and get out of jail free card, the traps are neither, a lot of wrongs in your argument.
Also \"its Lifelines job\", so what? By that logic we could easily remove/nerf Gibby's bubble, Bangalores smoke, Revenants silence and death totem, Wraiths portal and Wattsons entire kit cause they all help with revives and healing safely. Lifeline just does it better.