Re: About Camping
by AWOL_312Original Post
Why do you consider camping a no-no? I understand that it involves slow paced playing, but it is a matter of taste, not everyone is addicted to STIM or wants wild west cowboy duels in an open field. How can you tell if someone camped the whole match in a place and not just arrived there like a few seconds before you. Why would you care, when you have Bloodhound's abilities?
Only things I find bad about camping is that it's boring to sit and wait and, when the fight comes to you, you're probably not warmed up like the other team. Otherwise, it can work great for ambushes, holding choke points, third partying, snipers.
When you own a well kitted sniper rifle, it may be best to down the enemy before he realises where you are and runs to cover or pushes you, especially when your second weapon may not be great for close combat. you need to camp for this to happen, to observe the enemy, determine where his mates are and wait for a good moment for landing headshots. On other occasions, baiting can get you the win, as you can encourage the enemy team to push, with the false confidence that they are going against a solo, only to get ambushed by your well positioned (camped) teammates and / or traps. For third partying, you also need to camp, watch you back and observe the fight without being spotted, planning for the right moment. You may not like third partying, but it is part of many real military tactics. Hell, even chess is about third partying the king 
Note: I am not promoting camping against other ways to play, but trying to point out that it's viable and should not be hated so much. Like many others, i love how fast paced Apex is, but also like how it allows me to switch the pace and try a different approach.
@AWOL_312 wrote:
There's a huge difference between camping and hiding; i do not mind players who camp, especially if they are skilled using the sniper, in that case you will always deserve to die just to see how amazing those kills are.
Different is hide the whole match just to get to the top 5/3, and you can actually see when this happens just looking at the teams still in game during the 4th, 5th circle. This is so annoying!
I have to agree with @AWOL_312 here. There is a difference between someone hiding somewhere not being productive at all to gain placement and someone that knows when to take a breather. I'm a Caustic player myself and if within the ring inside of a building and know there are enemies outside, kicking back with some variables stashed around the place waiting to ambush them is my jam.
Once they leave, I'll try to follow them from behind (especially if we have a Bloodhound in the squad).
Hiding just to rank up feels very unrewarding to me. Yes , you get cosmetics and badges, but you miss all the fun of the battle, you don't develop your fighting skills. Once you get to the highest ranks, you will get longer waiting times for matchmaking, only to become an arc star target practice dummy for the apex predators.I pity those that waste so much time and entertainment value just for titles and badges to brag with, but I don't feel affected by them. It's nice to have some easy targets every now and then .
On the other hand, I did some hiding as well, especially to get in the last 3-5, but not because of ranking (I play unranked mostly). There are good chances of teams losing one or 2 members for good because of less respawn beacons available and increased ring damage. I prefer to third party the last 2 teams while they're fighting. The element of surprise gives the best chance to win if solo or with only one other teammate.
Yes, it can be annoying to have teammates that want to go the opposite of your way, but you have to adapt, it's a survival game. It's normal to have good team chemistry only once in a dozen of solo queues.
@DoYaSeeMe wrote:Hiding just to rank up feels very unrewarding to me. Yes , you get cosmetics and badges, but you miss all the fun of the battle, you don't develop your fighting skills. Once you get to the highest ranks, you will get longer waiting times for matchmaking, only to become an arc star target practice dummy for the apex predators.I pity those that waste so much time and entertainment value just for titles and badges to brag with, but I don't feel affected by them. It's nice to have some easy targets every now and then
On the other hand, I did some hiding as well, especially to get in the last 3-5, but not because of ranking (I play unranked mostly). There are good chances of teams losing one or 2 members for good because of less respawn beacons available and increased ring damage. I prefer to third party the last 2 teams while they're fighting. The element of surprise gives the best chance to win if solo or with only one other teammate.
Yes, it can be annoying to have teammates that want to go the opposite of your way, but you have to adapt, it's a survival game. It's normal to have good team chemistry only once in a dozen of solo queues.
I'm all for the slowing down and taking stock of a situation. Camping is a strat and I use it myself when needed.
What I don't get, is just hiding for a top finish for ranked. All these players are doing is getting matched with better and better players until they will not have the gun skill to actually play/compete at the higher ranks.
I play strategically when I can, but what I don't want to do, is punch above my weight and then never win a gunfight again lol. I play how I see fit, and let the MMing take care of my "skill" and rank. If I stay in Gold forever so be it. As long as I'm having fun.
I think to many players are hung up on rank, and want to level up at the detriment of gameplay/fun.
@Silz616 wrote:
I think to many players are hung up on rank, and want to level up at the detriment of gameplay/fun.
This is a great takeaway from this conversation. It's fun to jump into ranked if you're itching for some competitive matches and work your way up leagues to see where your skill belongs, but if it gets to a point where you start to get very frustrated with the game, jump back into some unranked matches for a bit and just have fun. Throw up a Twitch stream of a high level Apex Legends player and study their actions for a few games, trust me, you'll always pick up the "little things" from these streams that you totally overlooked but will make a huge difference in your gameplay.
