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I got the werewolves pack and was excited to play. My werewolf was really angry, I clicked on the ground and my options were go here “savagely” or mark territory. As an Indigenous person I was extremely disappointed, immediately stopped playing didn’t bother saving.
The word “savage” has been used against Indigenous peoples in many countries to justify land thefts, “residential schools”, 60’s scoop, millennium scoop, “Indian Day schools”, theft of culture, languages and Missing and Murdered Indigenous Peoples.
The word ‘savage’ didn’t start out meaning ‘bad *’. Colonizers weren’t calling indigenous people ‘savages’ as a term of endearment to describe how 'badass' they were. In fact, in the Declaration of Independence, indigenous people are referred to as, “merciless Indian savages.” The word was used to dehumanize indigenous people and justify genocide. Continuing to use this word is disrespectful and disregards the systematic oppression and racism that indigenous people still face today.
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Hey all, I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread as it's going around in circles discussing what is and isn't offensive.
Anyone is entitled to be offended by usage of a word and we appreciate and welcome all feedback that you wish to share with us and the team.
Thanks for taking the time to highlight this @JSmithh013, your feedback has been forwarded to the team.
Savagely means "in a fierce, violent, and uncontrolled manner."
Savage means "a person belonging to a primitive society".
The word used was Savagely not Savage. Besides there is nothing racial about savage as you yourself point out it has been used all over the world for indigenous people of different races.
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Let me say that I absolutely believe that there was no intent to be offensive or racist! Unfortunately, one of the privileges in white privilege is the privilege to not think about racism. Trust me, people of color would love to stop thinking about racism for a while! But because of this, non-POCs can sometimes unintentionally offend POCs.
Of all the definitions given for "savage" here, many people have left out one that I got from Merriam-Webster.com:
Definition of savage (Entry 2 of 3)
It is true that it says savage poo on the toilet but I think you will agree that this does not reference a person so we must instead look at the definition for using it as a verb,
Definition of savage (Entry 3 of 3)
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I’ll put it this way.
There’s “The animal ran here savagely,” and then there’s “We’ve based a lot of our werewolf pack visuals and lore on Twilight, but instead of having all our werewolves be explicitly Native American we’ll just tag all werewolf actions as being ‘savage’ or being done ‘savagely.’” One is clearly not a reference to Native Americans and the other….
Not intentionally, of course, but the tropes are hungry.
Could you please point me to where you saw that announcement from EA especially the part about werewolves being Native Americans. I haven't seen such an announcement.
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I want to say Miigwech (thank you) for trying to understand the perspective from an Indigenous person of the Americas. I did not know about the toilet action because I did not play long enough to check out the whole pack.
I did try to talk about the adverb of it and how it’s still harmful to Indigenous peoples. As well the relevance the Declaration of Independence has with EA headquarters being in USA.
Some words that could be used instead of one’s that are triggering for Indigenous peoples are ruthlessly, viciously, brutally or destructively.
HAPPY INDIGENOUS PEOPLES HISTORY MONTH! 🧡
Oh, thank you! of course! Thank you for taking the time to speak up and educate us. I genuinely appreciate it.
There was some discussion in the Jewish and Muslim representation thread where someone asked how it was possible that a US-centric game produced in the US had no Native American/First Nation representation, and I thought of that comment during the conversation here.
I sincerely hope that the Team considers using a different, less loaded word--one without such an ugly role in US History.