Re: First overhaul of Sims is disaster and here's why:
by xochiquetzl_xkvnOriginal Post
Hey everyone, we've moved the recent posts about the redesign of Bella Goth in this thread to avoid duplicates. Just to let you know so you're not confused 
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@valohim666 I like your idea! 
@kusurusu , most likely he has enough money to just buy duplicates of his favorite suit. 🤣 But yes, I would certainly have given him a more breathable Hot Weather outfit! Poor guy must be sweltering!🥵 I might have to change that! In one of my saves I gave him a hat for his Cold Weather outfit.
I also changed Cassandra's swim bottoms to match the swim top because I think it looked stupid with the baggy shorts. I do wish Bella was wearing the iconic shaped dress of hers, and not just a red dress. Her Party dress looks closer to the original. But the rest of the clothing I like! 😎
I have mixed feelings. I love the new Cassandra, and I think Bella is beautiful, and of course I love that they have non-whitewashed skintones, but I think I prefer the old Alexander. Part of that is because I miss his adorable sweater vest and preppy vibe, and part of it is because, well.
Old Alexander looks a bit odd when he ages up--I'm thinking of the ears and the nose in particular--but my Sims have married old Alexander in a couple of saves so it's not the end of the world. New Alexander looks very, very odd when he ages up. It'll take a while for me to get used to that.
For reference, here's one of my recent teen age-ups of old Alexander:
<3 so adorable! (Okay, I did plastic surgery on his ears and made him less frowny...)
Obviously, this isn't a problem limited to Alexander. Here's a YouTube video by someone else on the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfXn_0O7DUo
And for reference, here's my YA age up of Cassandra in the same save... you can tell you've inspired me.Ready for University!
@xochiquetzl_xkvn , i agree about Alexander and how cute his sweater vest was! It really seemed to fit his personality, from both TS4 and TS2! And I absolutely love your grown up Alexander ! 😃 But even without the cosmetic "surgery" you did on him, old Alexander still looks better grown up than new Alexander does! 
Yes, even when I make children genetically from the parents in CAS, I always age them up before I accept them because sometimes certain combinations in the game don't make for normal looking humans! Sometimes mom's eyes and chin don't look good with dad's jaw and nose! 😅 Occasionally I forget though! 
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I love that shirt with that skirt you put on Cassandra! I will have to give her an outfit like that! 😍
@xochiquetzl_xkvn , yes, I've always loved Alexander ever since the Sims 2! And the Goths are my favorite Maxis-made family for all versions of the game! They are just so iconic to the franchise! When thinking of the Sims families, I think of the Goths first, then the Landgraabs, and then either the Newbies or the Calientes! I wish Bella's brother, Michael Bachelor, had been added to TS4! 😢
Before TS2 came out, and I was playing TS1, my niece got all excited that I played the Sims. She said she heard from school that there is a family that everybody hates because they are miserable and hard to play. I figured out she meant the Goths, and I told her it wasn't the family -- it was the way their house was designed! They only had that one bathroom and everybody always walked in on family members or guests that were using it! 🤦♀️😅 There would often end up being a traffic jam in the bathroom! 🤪
@valohim666 I like the update but I also liked the original version. My problem is mostly that I think of each version of the Sims in terms of their pre-made families, and now there are 2 sets of Goths, so it messes with my brain! 😰🤪
I really liked al the old Goths. I think they just should have darkened their skin tone to match previous versions of the game, added set Hot and Cold Weather clothing, added some likes and dislikes, and call it a day! That would have been the best. However, I think they did a good job, for the most part, on making new Goths. Alexander being the biggest disappointment, but only when he ages up.
There are a few things I wish they did different, like keeping that preppy/nerdy look for Alexander that the original TS4 Alex had (as mentioned by @xochiquetzl_xkvn ), keeping the shape of Bella's dress the same (the shape of the dress is just as iconic as the color!) and a few other things (like giving Mortimer more comfortable Hot Weather clothes, giving him a hat for Cold Weather, Giving Cassandra different swim bottoms or a one piece, and I actually preferred her shirt from the original version as well. I like the new shirt, but it doesn't really say "Cassandra Goth" to me other than its color. )
As for faces, I like both versions of Cassandra's face. But I'm biased as the new version looks like my Sisiter-in-Law looked when she was a teen! 😄 I will say that the new Bella does seem to look a little more brooding like the TS1 Bella, even though her mouth is too wide when she smiles and her hair is too wavy for Bella. I love Mortimer's new outfit, but I will miss his old one as I could always tell it was him with that jacket on! 😅
So while I do like the new versions, I still miss the old versions. You can certainly say i have mixed feelings! 😂
But poor Alexander! 😭 Maybe they will give us a Plastic surgery pack (like they had in one of the packs from TS3) so he won't have to fear ageing up! 😅
