First overhaul of Sims is disaster and here's why:

[PugLove888]

@PatrickClSim3Low , if that is the case, then fair enough! 😎  However, there is the chance that while the

 developers have more resources, it could also be the case that their bosses tell them how to allocate those resources, which could explain why certain aspects of the game get more attention than the others, even if it is something that the players or even the developers would like to give more attention to. 

As for family trees, the Sims 4 family trees have always been glitchy, and not as comprehensive as the ones in TS2 and TS3. This might be why they didn't redo the Goth family tree, but if that is the case then they should have never mentioned that they were going to go more detail into the Goth's lore (unless all that lore was confined to the town of Willow Creek) . As a fan of lore and sprawling family trees in TS2 and TS3, I do agree that this was a misstep, unless that is to come a little bit later. 🤷‍♀️🤞

@TeoTeoTe0 I agree with you.  I like the final result of the remake much better than the concept art, and I also don't understand why they had to do concept art in the first place, when they could just give us a "rough draft" in CAS. 

My only guess is that maybe they felt that if they gave us a preliminary look in CAS that players might have thought those designs were set in stone and might even have started looking for the revamped family either in the game or on the gallery back when the redo was first announced! 😅

[Sthenastia]

In my opinion, Goths update brought to us too many changes. As I see, comunity have expected just a small improvements in premade sims apperance and more changes in personalities, relations, likes and dislikes ect. For my our new Goths no longer look like Goths. It's very upsetting especially that we know that EA have used a lot of resources to that. To proff you that sometimes less is more, I have changed orginal Bella only by the sliders and nothing more. I've just made her skin darker, and makeup less intensive.

[Slytherclaw72]

I don't mind them wanting to update the skin tones and all to better match previous games, but the rest of the overhaul leaves much to be desired. I told a friend it looks like they've been interbreeding with the Charms and Vlad. Poor Alexander has always had problems at age up, but this one is just ridiculously cruel.

[RavenLure]

@Slytherclaw72 Inbreeding LOL totally agree! I think Mortie looks like a former Mobster.... I do not feel this refresh

[xochiquetzl_xkvn]

This looks very much like how I have her in my personal starter save. I just gave them hot and cold weather outfits and darkened their skin tone.

[DizzyDee-K]

Since modifying pre-mades is a common Simmer hobby, I don't understand why they aren't just highlighting player remakes. They could specify: Must be Base Game only. 

[RavenLure]

@DizzyDee-K I like that idea.. we all have our own views and ideas of what the townies should be like. We all have our own unique relationships with them. I do want them to flesh out the lore more and give them likes and dislikes maybe, but a townie refresh is really not needed..My version of Johnny Zest is well has been very ....... shall I say Zesty ? LOL

[valohim666]

I personally don't care if they wanted to makeover vanilla characters and families, but in my opinion if they're going to do that sort of thing they need to add the updated families to the Gallery and make them optional instead of just forcing anyone that starts a new game to have them. Or if they are going to replace the defaults, at least put versions of the originals in the Gallery. I'm sure players have versions of the originals in there already, but I'm sure some aren't completely original and I'd rather just have the EA originals to choose from.

Or another idea I have is to have an option when starting a new game that lets you pick what version of a family you want to use, and possibly even have an option to let you pick from versions saved in your Gallery. Then instead of starting a new game and manually replacing a family, you just tell the game what version you want and it does it for you.

[RavenLure]

@valohim666 totally agree with you.

[kusurusu]

Is there a reason why Mortimer wears the same suit for everyday, party, hot(!) and cold weather?