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EA Staff (Retired)Re: [By Design] Life span duration changed for teen and adult sim
This was an intentional change, all age spans were changed slightly.
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EA Staff (Retired)This was an intentional change, all age spans were changed slightly.
This was an intentional change, all age spans were changed slightly.
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This is nothing official though and I'm unable to test baby and toddlers, nor do I know the new average for elders. Someone with access to the tuning files probably knows more. I currently don't have time to check on that
\n\nI tested like this:
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\nTeen: 52
\nYA: 88
\nAdult: 88
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Just as an FYI, I went in and got the new lengths after the change vs what it was before (which I got from Carl's Sims Guide) for toddler through adult. This is just me checking sims in my game who hadn't been played with.
Thanks and regards,
Jennifer
I am asking for a default. No modifiers.
If I gave birth & then baked a cake & Aged up a sim from baby -> toddler -> child-> teen -> young adult -> adult -> elder how many days would the elder have to live?
What about elders?
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I like the new normal lifespan settings, as I usually play on long and have one save on normal just because I have so many households in it, and my feeling was that toddler/child/teen were about right but YA/A were too short, so I like the added days on teen and adult.
As for long lifespan,though... what? Long lifespan has always been 4 times normal, so why SHORTEN long lifespan on YA and A? Surely that's not right. I couldn't help but notice in LilSimsie's aging bug coverage that her test Sim on long lifespan also had 88 days as a YA/A before your patch (but aged 40 or so every time he went into CAS). This I DON'T like.
Perhaps you're still working on it, and just wanted to quickly push out a fix so our Sims would stop dying, which is not only legit but appreciated. But if 88 days instead of 96 for YA/A for long lifespan is by design... sorry, not a fan.
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Is it by design that the long lifespan was shortened?
For long lifespan children and teens were changed from 56 days to 52 (losing 4 days for each), and young adults and adults were changed from 94 days to 88 (losing 6 days for each). This is a total of 20 days lost for the long lifespan.
For the normal lifespan, teens have exactly 3 weeks now, while for long lifespan teens used to have exactly 8 weeks, but now they have 7 weeks and 3 days. Wouldn't it make more sense if they had whole weeks for long lifespan too?