Why did thay put womem in BF5

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Why did thay put womem in BF5

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Ok so yes I now there were women in ww2 but not in the us military nor in the British military and not in the German Military so explain why in the first trailer we see a female soldier on the front lines and why the hell dose she have prothstetic arm. And why is like the trailer like a call of duty game. It's also wird that that say this is historically acuret but we all no that's not true. 

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@spacefarts1567 Actually, it's historically inaccurate to claim not only that women did not serve during WWII but that they did not serve in the British, US or German Army. Any claims that women did not play a huge part in the war effort during WWII are at best misinformed and at worst propaganda of the kind that was so popular during the conflict.  Different countries engaged in combat had different rules relating to what female recruits could and could not do, in the UK, for example, there was the Auxiliary Territorial Service which was in effect the women's army. It began as a more traditional avenue for women to make a difference, things like typing up reports, cooking for soldiers and keeping track of the general disarray of the war effort by filling records and what not but as is life this quickly changed.

 

As the war progressed and the British Army found itself with fewer fighting resources, which is hardly surprising given that during the campaign the British war effort resulted in the deaths of 383,700 soldiers. In order to fill the hundreds of thousands of roles that were left unmanned the British government rolled out a secret program known as the Newark experiment which was an all-female British defence unit formed toward the end of 1942. Initially, the program had women manning the anti-aircraft searchlights but over time the program expanded and women were, in fact, manning anti-aircraft artillery all over the British Isles. After this, the roles available to women expanded once again with both the Navy and Air Force accepting female soldiers into the Wrens and Waffs respectively. These women weren't simply there to fill some gender quota or to look good, these women were engaged in actual wartime combat and fought with as much honor and grit as their male counterparts. Given the somewhat secretive nature of the program, the women were not allowed speak of their work to the outside world,  exact casualty numbers are hard to come by but it is known that over 700 ATS women were killed in duty during WWII.

 

One of the men behind the idea of female soldiers was General Sir Frederick Pile, an Irish man who served in both great wars and when fears were raised about how the women were coping he wrote the following, ‘They showed themselves more effective, more horror-inspiring and more blood-thirsty with their pick-helves than many a male sentry with his gun, as several luckless gentlemen found to their cost.’

 

For women who fought and died on the front lines (front line is defined as 'a place where opposing armies face each other in war and where fighting happens', and as such refer to any area in which conflict is occurring in relation to the position of an armed force's personal or equipment, as such the anti-aircrft gunners at home can be described as front line casualties), you need to look no further than Britain's Special Operations Executive of which almost 25% of those employed were women. Again, this was a secret organization that was more commonly referred to as the "Baker Street Irregulars". This organisation operated in all countries attacked or under the control of the Axis forces and it's members were involved in some of the most dangerous missions and maneuvers during WWII and many of the female operatives died in combat with Axis forces. 

 

When people say that women did not serve on the frontline it does a disservice to the thousands of women who fought and died in the protection of their county.

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Just an example with this article about the last ww2 woman pilot:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/26/mary-ellis-last-surviving-female-ww2-spitfire-pilot-dies...

 

They are women just in little proportion, you are not forced to play woman skin Standard smile.

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@spacefarts1567 Actually, it's historically inaccurate to claim not only that women did not serve during WWII but that they did not serve in the British, US or German Army. Any claims that women did not play a huge part in the war effort during WWII are at best misinformed and at worst propaganda of the kind that was so popular during the conflict.  Different countries engaged in combat had different rules relating to what female recruits could and could not do, in the UK, for example, there was the Auxiliary Territorial Service which was in effect the women's army. It began as a more traditional avenue for women to make a difference, things like typing up reports, cooking for soldiers and keeping track of the general disarray of the war effort by filling records and what not but as is life this quickly changed.

 

As the war progressed and the British Army found itself with fewer fighting resources, which is hardly surprising given that during the campaign the British war effort resulted in the deaths of 383,700 soldiers. In order to fill the hundreds of thousands of roles that were left unmanned the British government rolled out a secret program known as the Newark experiment which was an all-female British defence unit formed toward the end of 1942. Initially, the program had women manning the anti-aircraft searchlights but over time the program expanded and women were, in fact, manning anti-aircraft artillery all over the British Isles. After this, the roles available to women expanded once again with both the Navy and Air Force accepting female soldiers into the Wrens and Waffs respectively. These women weren't simply there to fill some gender quota or to look good, these women were engaged in actual wartime combat and fought with as much honor and grit as their male counterparts. Given the somewhat secretive nature of the program, the women were not allowed speak of their work to the outside world,  exact casualty numbers are hard to come by but it is known that over 700 ATS women were killed in duty during WWII.

 

One of the men behind the idea of female soldiers was General Sir Frederick Pile, an Irish man who served in both great wars and when fears were raised about how the women were coping he wrote the following, ‘They showed themselves more effective, more horror-inspiring and more blood-thirsty with their pick-helves than many a male sentry with his gun, as several luckless gentlemen found to their cost.’

 

For women who fought and died on the front lines (front line is defined as 'a place where opposing armies face each other in war and where fighting happens', and as such refer to any area in which conflict is occurring in relation to the position of an armed force's personal or equipment, as such the anti-aircrft gunners at home can be described as front line casualties), you need to look no further than Britain's Special Operations Executive of which almost 25% of those employed were women. Again, this was a secret organization that was more commonly referred to as the "Baker Street Irregulars". This organisation operated in all countries attacked or under the control of the Axis forces and it's members were involved in some of the most dangerous missions and maneuvers during WWII and many of the female operatives died in combat with Axis forces. 

 

When people say that women did not serve on the frontline it does a disservice to the thousands of women who fought and died in the protection of their county.

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Yes you are portraying them as thay were in the us army and has stupid blue eye liner and a fake arm ya totally realistic 

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You are just following the left side and SJW agenda. It's also funny how you also said that if you don't agree with this choice than don't buy the game that is so dum we the fan's made this whut is is today we made battlefield. This a disgrace for whut you call a historic game. 

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Both of my granddads fought in ww2 and when talking to them I ask were there women fighting with protetic arms and thay both said no and who ever beloved that need to get there heads of there own ads so I am sorry that you believe that your ww2 is histocly acuret. Also why the hell dose a soldier have a sword from the Pacific thither. 

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Is sad that you think a lot of people like this game but in fact way more people hate this game

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I'm locking this thread, it could have been an interesting discussion on the role women played during the second great war but it's clear that it's not to be. 

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