Standing guillotine

[dd22235ttt]

Standing guillotine is straight up broken. You’re suppose to be able to move to get out when they are spinning you around draining your stamina and it’s almost impossible to block it eight R2. Please look into it and either fix it or just take it out the game

[EA_Blueberry · Accepted solution]

@The-BritishVirus  @dd22235ttt 

The rear naked choke and guillotine were addressed yesterday.

GAMEPLAY COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TUNER
- Fixed issue where body crane kicks could track side lunges.
- Fixed issue in crucifix, that allowed submission entries to override transitions.
- Slightly decreased the strength of the following submissions:

• Rear Naked Choke from Back Sitting
• Armbar from Postured Full Mount
• Armbar from Full Mount
• Triangle Armbar from Full Mount
• Armbar from Side Saddle
• Arm Triangle from Side Saddle
• North South Choke from North South
• Windshield Choke from North South
• Gogoplata from Rubber Guard

- Moderately decreased the strength of the Gogoplata from Full Mount.
- Severely decreased the strength of the Guillotines from the Clinch.

Post: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/UFC-4-Fighter-Update-07-08-2021/m-p/10498724#M2397

[dd22235ttt]

Remove it or fix it. Do your job

[EA_Blueberry]

Hey, @dd22235ttt 

Do you have any recorded clips here you can share so the team can review under certain scenarios it needs to be looked at a little closer? There's also others in these forums that might be able to give some advice on how to get around difficult spots in a fight. I haven't seen too much chatter around it, the more feedback we get from the community the more push we have to let the dev team know it's impacting a lot of players out there. If there hasn't been any in-game changes around it, the data likely is pointing to it not being a big issue for most players. There was some advice on how to stop it given on the UFC subreddit if it helps you out. 

[The-BritishVirus]

This needs to be fixed immediately in my opinion. The Rear Naked Choke is bad but this one is worse in my opinion especially when you don't need stamina, grapple advantage or good submission skill to get an easy victory.

For a submission to be successful off a professional player you should atleast deny their transitions once or twice to get the grapple advantage up or exhaust your opponents stamina and then engage a submission. However, with the standing guillotine you don't require any of that and that is what makes it broken. A very hard submission to attempt in real life which some greats have only attempted and accomplished as examples (Jones, Ortega, Oliveria) all jiu jitsu masters and yet I see none of them doing submissions on the game but random cafs and fighters with little jiu jitsu history having them and yet submitting everyone.

Please fix this, it harms the enjoyment on the game significantly and I believe the community has wanted fix for a while. Thank you. 

[EA_Blueberry · Accepted solution]

@The-BritishVirus  @dd22235ttt 

The rear naked choke and guillotine were addressed yesterday.

GAMEPLAY COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TUNER
- Fixed issue where body crane kicks could track side lunges.
- Fixed issue in crucifix, that allowed submission entries to override transitions.
- Slightly decreased the strength of the following submissions:

• Rear Naked Choke from Back Sitting
• Armbar from Postured Full Mount
• Armbar from Full Mount
• Triangle Armbar from Full Mount
• Armbar from Side Saddle
• Arm Triangle from Side Saddle
• North South Choke from North South
• Windshield Choke from North South
• Gogoplata from Rubber Guard

- Moderately decreased the strength of the Gogoplata from Full Mount.
- Severely decreased the strength of the Guillotines from the Clinch.

Post: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Game-Information/UFC-4-Fighter-Update-07-08-2021/m-p/10498724#M2397