Lets talk about Packs and Pack luck ? [ Edited ]

[Az91x]

Have you ever noticed, the same people getting lucky and getting mega pulls from packs while others stay unlucky throught the year? I have seen multiple times on youtube streams that those who have had red picks like rashford, cr7, neymar will always get something very valueable and useable in 85+ upgrades or icon sbcs. Have even seen people who packed top icons like r9 will once again pack top icons like gullit or vieria etc. Or maybe someone will pack mbappe 5 times while other accounts pack nothing. 

This speaks something about the accounts & pack luck in general. First of all let me assure you there is no pack luck, there is only account luck. Some accounts are way overpowered over others, they will always pack good pulls. While majority of the accounts are forced towards buying fifa points. Hence i believe accounts are completely fixed. Here's how:

People compare these packs to a casino gamble but they are'nt, i was curious and read everything about packs on their page.

What they only say:

1. The probability to pack 82+ or 84+ 86+ etc

2. The contents of the pack are dynamically generated

What they don't say:

1. 86+ out of how many players, out of the total players in the game? They would never say out of total players coz everyone does pack an 86+ but for some accounts they might only include from a set limited to 100k tradeable value? (Eg: how would u ever pull an Ace card when your set doesnt even have an ace card)

2. They dont say probability to pack a 300k+ player etc

3. Note: Contents of the pack are not randomly generated like they should be in a casino, they are dynamically generated. So what is the basis of this dynamic generation? Engagement? New to the game? Fifa points?

EA has never clearly explained the packs ever and just note this and it happens everywhere. If someone packs a mega 1mil+ pull once, he will get it again and again. If someone newly spends on points, he will get the 3 icons 4 cr7s just like that. 

[EA_Cade · Accepted solution]

Hi @Az91x,

This is completely false, pack content is 100% randomly generated from the pool of available players and everyone pulls from that same pool.

[EA_Cade · Accepted solution]

Hi @Az91x,

This is completely false, pack content is 100% randomly generated from the pool of available players and everyone pulls from that same pool.

[TTZ_Dipsy]

Please don't trust youtube and twitch streamers who do pack openings - their subscribers pay for all their packs and they only show the good stuff they recieve.

[Az91x]

No i have seen this multiple times and u can observe it too. For example from the start of the game till now i have never got a walkout over 200k value and in general when i get a walkout its sbc material. Whenever i do 81+ upgrade packs etc and i have done 1000s i would never get a special player, when i do icon sbcs it will always be a bad one. 

What i have noticed is those who pack good card once they keep packing it again and again. Like people getting cards like cr7 4-5 times and the same people getting 3-4 icons and the same people when they do upgrade sbcs they get the best promo cards. This trend is so obvious, if you are in a large fifa group or have a lot of friends who play fifa you will notice this. I had this kind of luck as well when i started playing FUT. How does it suddenly change 1 year i am lucky and the next couple of years it is mostly bad?

Hence, i went on and read how packs work and thats what i find interesting as they only say probability to pack a certain rating. So yeah everyone does pack 84+ or 86+ but what if some accounts doesn not have a set which contains those mega useable cards which actually have value in the game. 

And the trends i am talking about are so easy to observe, i know people personally with those trends like they will always pack the best icon from sbcs each time they do it. And on youtube usually they check squads before doing sbcs and based on their untradeable luck or red picks they predict the content of the packs. The outcome is almost guaranteed to be insanely good if the account has good red picks or packed players. 

[jeppe2121]

@Az91x Is like this for all gamers. Get the players you want is often impossible. If you play 30 games in rivals every week, play champions at weekend, play squad battles every week. You can easy get lots of coins and get lots of the players you want. You can do SBC every week and get the players you want. You can also play the missions that is to get better players. You just need to do what is says you need to do.

So just be better. Play fifa fast like hell and never give the other player/players a chance. You will win then.

Good Luck!

[Az91x]

You completely missed what i am talking about. I am talking about how they can play with the words and still do not do anything wrong. 

As in it only says probability to pack 81+, 82+, 86+ etc, sure that sounds right ? 

Now i have compared this with so many people and we have a large fifa group and guess what the trends are still going the same even with this promo. So what are the trends? 

First lets split up bad accounts vs good accounts. Majority of good accounts in our group are people who have spent money on the game, there are rare few like literally only 3 or 4 who have not and have good accounts. 

So what are the good accounts, i say they are the accounts which hase all the cards in their set, these people have packed cards like neymar, cr7 5 to 6 times, plus they have packed 3 or more icons. Now some people have bad accounts like me, and i do tons and tons of sbc and always grind to rank 1 rivals. I have always got what EA say that is an 82+ 84+ 86+ etc but they are mostly sbc material and under 100k if i am lucky. Till date i have not packed a useable player above 120k and an untradeable player above 250k (this is ultra rare too like i have only got 3 or 4).

After trying hard i do pack a promo card most promo but it usually always is the lest valueable, for example this promo i only managed to pack a cb pepe who is 57k.

So the point i am making is what if my account is fixed to not contain players with high market value, say above 300k and the trends are ridiculous, like same accounts getting best pulls while same bad accounts getting done. And its so obvious, its in your face u just need to look, we are actually tracking this on excel sheet for 100+ accounts, will post it in few weeks and i swear the trends are crazy, as in the same accounts always getting good stuff.

So clearly there is some sort of a play of words going on here. Like i said if your deck does not have a king or an ace, you ll never get one ;-) 

[Kianlewis17]

So if it’s “100% randomly generated”, explain to me why I’m stuck using the same team every week because I can’t pack anything good? My friend since tots has packed: tots di maria, tots kimmich, tots mertens, tots bamba, tots ruben dias, path to glory marcos llorente, path to glory sanchez only to name a few and I’m here only packing one good player all year apart from the guaranteed packs and the party bags

[Darth_Green1707]

@TTZ_Dipsy It’s not just the you tubers, it every forum you go on you see various people with shots of what they’ve opened and their teams.

For example there’s people who open an 80+ player pick and get a choice of 2 FOF cards, an icon and an 85 card.

Whereas others like myself get a choice of 4 80 players.

I’m not saying it’s a fix or luck related, I’m saying there’s something wrong possibly a system error or something that affects certain accounts such as when they were set up etc.

[Darth_Green1707]

@Kianlewis17 I’m exactly the same as you.

Also if it’s randomly generated how come I get the same player or a couple of players the same if I open two rare player packs one after the other.

80% of the players that come out of my packs are out of a pool of about 40 players e.g. maehle and Gonzalo Martinez a couple of times a week. Balde in 8 packs in a row. Marcos rojo the main player displayed on 2 rare player pack openings in a row!

Do SBC’s and always get the lowest rated player available or a duplicate e.g. Soucek in both premier league TOTS SBC’s.

Complete challenges and in 90% of the 75+ rare player packs it’s a duplicate.

There is a major disparity between what users get and I would just like it to be investigated properly.

[Darth_Green1707]

@Darth_Green1707 By the way this isn’t just a Fifa21 issue, exactly the same on Fifa20.

I’ve had a FUT team since 2013, things have always been the same. For example not once in all this time have I had an icon in a pack. Generally any promotion I don’t get anything in packs e.g. fut freeze, fut birthday, fut what if etc.