Re: "Cannot retrieve information from Origin" when trying to access the DLC store ingame

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I´ve had some back and forths with EA customer support as well;

 

Using this tool; ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/origin/patches/uo/uotrace.exe I was able to traceroute towards the servers that handle Origin activity. 

 

By going to advanced and tracerouting to easo.ea.com I came to the most startling conclusion; From my place to the Origin servers that handle DLC, there are 16 hops. 2 of those block packets, making communication impossible. One of them is an IP in Redwood, an EA office - that one is a firewall that blocks any packet not coming from an EA application, the other was a LOCAL IP. 

 

Now this would suggest I have something in the lines of hardware connected on my network that blocks the communications between my machine and EA through Dead Space, however, what's most peculiar is that this IP keeps appearing on the list. Even after reinstalling my machine completely, eliminating any software faults, and even if I connect directly on my modem, even after I switched modems (I contacted my ISP about this, they offered to swap routers to elminate any possible involvement from their end). So with no physical devices on the network aside from my modem and my PC, there is this local ghost-IP dat blocks any packets intended to travel from here to EA.

 

The invidual hops which Uotrace identified are each pingable individually and accept packets from my machine - it's packets intended to go all the way that get blocked. For the less technically inclined - every computer can connect to any computer on the internet if this is the receiving machine's intent (to receive incoming connections). However, if we just haphazardly connect to any computer we intend to connect to, we might run into issues such as lag due to long distances.

 

To counter this, information goes from machine to machine in short bursts over shorter distances. Tracerouting is a practice that lets someone map those bursts to see where your information goes to before it ends up at it's destination. Each machine in that route is called a hop. If you play co-op, for instance, you might have 20ms worth of lag. If you were to ping the server handling co-op directly from where I live, Holland, that would get a delay of 150ms (and that's a ping command from Windows, being 32 bytes small, the amount of data for co-op is by comparison vastly larger). This is the reason we communicate through these bursts over short distances - it eases network congestion, allowing better connections. 

 

Now - I can see all the hops I have to make, every machine my information has to pass through before it reaches EA. It gets stopped at two points, an EA firewall and a local IP. The local IP could either be a blockade of some sort, set up on ISP-level or a basic rejection of foreign packets coming from traceroutes. The latter would imply my data would pass through normally if done from the game. Option two would be the firewall in Redwood - it should allow data intended for/originating from Origin or EA games to pass, but doesn't - either my game sends corrupt data, a checksum or validation failed or my account is blocked in some way. 

 

Perhaps everyone facing this problem should run the uotrace and post the results. Here's mine, and it's garbled, but line by line, it makes sense. The first address is my router, the second is this local ghost IP. 100% packet loss means this address doesn't communicate with me or allows data to pass through it, the third last host is the EA firewall;

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 192.168.178.1 1 0ms 0ms 0% 6 / 6 0ms / 0ms
* Unknown Host * 10.223.0.1 2 6ms 100% 0 / 5
tb-rc0001-cr102-irb-202.core.as91213.51.150.193 3 6ms 6ms 0% 5 / 5 6ms / 7ms
asd-tr0409-cr101-ae5-0.core.as914213.51.158.154 4 9ms 11ms 0% 5 / 5 8ms / 23ms
ae5.ams20.ip4.tinet.net 77.67.64.65 5 10ms 11ms 0% 5 / 5 9ms / 21ms
xe-3-0-0.er1.ams1.nl.above.net 64.125.14.77 6 9ms 14ms 0% 5 / 5 8ms / 37ms
ge-3-2-0.mpr1.ams1.nl.above.net 64.125.26.82 7 10ms 10ms 0% 5 / 5 9ms / 13ms
xe-5-3-0.cr2.lga5.us.above.net 64.125.25.57 8 84ms 84ms 0% 5 / 5 83ms / 85ms
xe-2-2-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net 64.125.26.105 9 93ms 95ms 0% 5 / 5 90ms / 114ms
xe-7-2-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net 64.125.26.41 10 98ms 105ms 0% 5 / 5 98ms / 129ms
xe-0-0-1.er1.iad10.us.above.net 64.125.31.206 11 99ms 102ms 0% 5 / 5 97ms / 114ms
64.125.199.186.t00673-01.above.ne64.125.199.186 12 132ms 139ms 0% 5 / 5 132ms / 149ms
* Unknown Host * 159.153.93.2 13 97ms 100% 0 / 5
* Unknown Host * 159.153.225.30 14 99ms 98ms 0% 5 / 5 98ms / 99ms
meav5-pub.pt.iad.ea.com 159.153.226.105 15 98ms 97ms 0% 5 / 5 97ms / 98ms

 

To get your own list - open the tool I linked in the beginning - click no when prompted to download a server list and in the tool, click on options > advanced. Fill out easo.ea.com in the dropdown-box and click the fourth button from the left, marked Traceroute. When the hosts are listed, click Poll, the button on the right from TraceRoute. Let it run for about 5 to 25 packets, then click the button again to stop polling. Edit > Copy and you have your results. 

 

Let's figure this out. What's going on and why can't we access the DLC-stores?

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Bumping is shameful, but I'm really, really getting tired of seeing the ration seals stack up and having to pop back and forth between Origin and the game.

 

I do have a support ticket running on the side, but so far, the only thing that's happened is me being accused of not having my network in order even though I've gone as far as reinstalling two of my systems and replacing my network hardware (new moder/router and cables), is there really nobody out there who knows what the deal is here?

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No idea what it all means, but here goes:

 

  • Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
  • * Unknown Host * 192.168.1.1 1 0ms 0ms 0% 28 / 28 0ms / 1ms
  • * Unknown Host * 10.15.15.129 2 5ms 100% 0 / 28
  • * Unknown Host * 212.142.55.237 3 7ms 7ms 0% 28 / 28 5ms / 13ms
  • * Unknown Host * 84.116.244.17 4 8ms 9ms 0% 28 / 28 7ms / 16ms
  • * Unknown Host * 84.116.138.77 5 103ms 100% 0 / 28
  • us-was03a-rd1-xe-0-3-0.aorta.net 84.116.130.66 6 103ms 105ms 0% 28 / 28 100ms / 135ms
  • us-was02a-ri1-ge-4-0-0.aorta.net 84.116.130.202 7 105ms 104ms 0% 28 / 28 101ms / 121ms
  • Eth1-7.edge03.abn-iad.ea.com 206.126.236.55 8 100ms 100% 0 / 27
  • * Unknown Host * 159.153.225.5 9 98ms 100% 0 / 27
  • * Unknown Host * 159.153.225.30 10 101ms 102ms 0% 27 / 27 97ms / 157ms
  • meav5-pub.pt.iad.ea.com 159.153.226.105 11 103ms 104ms 0% 27 / 27 102ms / 109ms

Tried everything from opening up roughly 23 different ports and port ranges to disabling the firewall, running both Origin and DS3 in admin mode and XP SP2 compatibility. Still unable to retrieve information from Origin.

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You seem to have the exact same issue as I have, an IP that is situated in a local network-range (the second one) that doesn't let packets through. Where are you located and what is your ISP?

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Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
sitecomwl341.sitecomwl341 192.168.0.1 1 0ms 0ms 0% 37 / 37 0ms / 1ms
* Unknown Host * 10.15.147.1 2 6ms 100% 0 / 36
* Unknown Host * 212.142.59.237 3 9ms 9ms 0% 36 / 36 6ms / 15ms
* Unknown Host * 84.116.244.33 4 12ms 14ms 0% 36 / 36 11ms / 35ms
* Unknown Host * 84.116.138.81 5 106ms 100% 0 / 36
us-was03a-rd1-xe-0-3-0.aorta.net 84.116.130.66 6 107ms 104ms 0% 36 / 36 100ms / 132ms
us-was02a-ri1-ge-4-1-0.aorta.net 84.116.130.206 7 105ms 107ms 0% 36 / 36 103ms / 116ms
Eth1-7.edge03.abn-iad.ea.com 206.126.236.55 8 120ms 100% 0 / 36
* Unknown Host * 159.153.225.5 9 102ms 100% 0 / 36
* Unknown Host * 159.153.225.30 10 100ms 104ms 0% 36 / 36 100ms / 197ms
meav5-pub.pt.iad.ea.com 159.153.226.105 11 106ms 107ms 0% 36 / 36 105ms / 110ms

 

I appear to have the exact same problem.

My ISP is UPC Broadband and I live in the Netherlands.

My router is a Sitecom 300N wireless.

I obtained Dead Space 3 through the Humble Origin Bundle.

My OS is 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate.

 

Do we share any common denominators?

 

This is a really annoying issue because I can't spend my Ration Seals at all, not to mention buy any DLC ingame.

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Host Name                                   IP Address        Hop    Ping Time   Ping Avg   % Loss    Pkts r/s   Ping best/worst
52D94401.cm-11-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl          82.217.68.1       1      11ms        11ms       0%        26 / 26    8ms / 30ms
mnd-rc0001-cr101-vl243.core.as9143.net      213.51.168.1      2      12ms        13ms       0%        26 / 26    7ms / 47ms
asd-lc0006-cr101-ae7-0.core.as9143.net      213.51.158.2      3      20ms        17ms       0%        26 / 26    9ms / 67ms
ae1.ams10.ip4.tinet.net                     77.67.64.61       4      13ms        15ms       0%        26 / 26    10ms / 44ms
xe-5-2-0.ams20.ip4.tinet.net                89.149.180.122    5      13ms        17ms       0%        26 / 26    9ms / 63ms
xe-3-0-0.er1.ams1.nl.above.net              64.125.14.77      6      32ms        17ms       0%        26 / 26    10ms / 44ms
ge-3-3-0.mpr1.ams1.nl.above.net             64.125.25.13      7      13ms        12ms       0%        26 / 26    10ms / 18ms
xe-5-3-0.cr2.lga5.us.above.net              64.125.25.57      8      88ms        88ms       0%        25 / 25    86ms / 92ms
xe-2-2-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net              64.125.26.105     9      93ms        99ms       0%        25 / 25    93ms / 186ms
xe-7-2-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net              64.125.26.41      10     97ms        109ms      0%        25 / 25    97ms / 188ms
xe-0-0-1.er1.iad10.us.above.net             64.125.31.206     11     104ms       105ms      0%        25 / 25    98ms / 192ms
64.125.199.186.t00673-01.above.net          64.125.199.186    12     101ms       103ms      0%        25 / 25    98ms / 192ms
* Unknown Host *                            159.153.93.2      13     104ms                  100%      0 / 25
* Unknown Host *                            159.153.225.30    14     98ms        99ms       0%        25 / 25    96ms / 107ms
meav5-pub.pt.iad.ea.com                     159.153.226.105   15     100ms       104ms      0%        25 / 25    99ms / 188ms

 

According to my data, I get blocked by EA firewall.

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I also got my friend who does not have this issue to do a traceroute, here are his results:

 

Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
* Unknown Host * 0.0.0.0 1 0ms
sotn-core-2a-ae6-639.network.virg80.4.226.49 2 9ms 17ms 0% 29 / 29 8ms / 66ms
popl-bb-1c-ae14-0.network.virginm62.253.175.30 3 13ms 16ms 0% 29 / 29 13ms / 33ms
xe-1-0-0-xcr1.lsw.cw.net 166.63.211.129 4 18ms 18ms 0% 29 / 29 15ms / 41ms
ae12-xcr1.lnd.cw.net 195.2.25.30 5 23ms 27ms 0% 29 / 29 22ms / 62ms
ae6-xcr1.nyk.cw.net 195.2.25.197 6 88ms 92ms 0% 29 / 29 87ms / 114ms
ae3-xcr1.ash.cw.net 195.2.21.134 7 90ms 97ms 0% 29 / 29 90ms / 120ms
Eth1-7.edge03.abn-iad.ea.com 206.126.236.55 8 93ms 100% 0 / 28
* Unknown Host * 159.153.225.5 9 98ms 100% 0 / 28
* Unknown Host * 159.153.225.30 10 93ms 96ms 0% 28 / 28 91ms / 133ms
meav5-pub.pt.iad.ea.com 159.153.226.105 11 94ms 94ms 0% 28 / 28 91ms / 111ms

 

He lives in the UK

His ISP is Virgin Media.

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I'm from the Netherlands too. I'm starting to assume this is something ISP related, but from which end, I cannot say. (Whether or not EA blocks certain ISPs or certain ISPs block EA).

 

The ghostly IP in the beginning of some of the logs that blocks all communication is the only point that needs addressing according to EA support, but they keep hammering on the fact that they think it's an issue on my end. I replaced all hardware involved in networking, from network adapter all the way through modem and the things inbetween, and piled on a format of two systems in my household.

 

What bothers me most is that EA keeps replying with the same copypasta saying I should check my cables or contact my ISP, while having me churn out heaps of information, whilst not giving me anything in return so I can see what's done on their end. It's fine if you can't do anything, but at least have the decency of some transparency after a customer has had the patience and goodwill to do everything you've asked of him.

 

Financially speaking, I've bought Dead Space 3 three times over if we count every penny spent on trying to fix this. Don't get me wrong, that was all merely a proposition done by you guys which I chose to follow up on, my local network needed the tuneup anyways, but it's still effort spent towards meeting eachother halfway where I ended up meeting you at your doorstep with nothing to go by but "check your cables" and "send us some logs". 

 

How about throwing us a bone? I know customer service representatives are costly and their time is both limited and valuable, and that you shouldn't just blurt out every tiny detail to any customer who complains a lot but doesn't actually do anything, but with cases like these, where there's tangible proof the customer himself is stuck and left with a faulty product, even IF it were the case it's his fault or there's a third party involved you cannot exert any control over, at least extend the courtesy of being transparent so we're not left wondering if we're just being fed cookiecutter replies. 

 

My ticket number was/is 09540817

 

It would be just awesome to see what was actually done on EA's end so I can start ruling stuff out instead of calling my ISP/your customer service without having to be so vague that one can point to the other and vice versa. It's kinda hard convincing your ISP to check something if all other network traffic passes through like excrement through a goose as is convincing you if all you do is stare blindly at a log and deducing off the bat based off a single line that my entire network config is wrong.

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Quick update - It seems to affect Dutch people only on two coaxial ISP's. 

 

There is a pattern here...

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Good. Patterns are good. What's your ISP btw?

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