[OPEN] [PSP] Guidry & Temperance's appearance is disappear [ Edited ]

[Pick-a-boo_doo]

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.110.265.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? EP: All excluding Hight School Years, Growing Together, For Rent, Lovestruck GP: All excluding Journey To Batuu SP: All excluding Luxury Party, Perfect Patio, Movie Hangout, Kids Room, Home Chef Hustle, Crystal Creations Kit: Industrial Loft, Blooming Rooms, Moonlight Chic, Desert Luxe. Pastel Pop, Bathroom Clutter, Greenhouse Haven, Basement Treasures, Book Nook, Modern Luxe
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play at Haunted House type Lot until Guidry and Temperance will appear and make the relationship with them.
What happens when the bug occurs? If you check the relationship panel or the Manage Household panel, you can find that Guidry and Temperance's appearance won't be displayed.
What do you expect to see? They are displayed correctly as a ghost.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. After 10/22/2024 update

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Guidry does not appear as a household, so we cannot confirm. But for some reason Temperance appears in Manage Household panel, so we can check her settings in CAS mode.
See the following pics and compare the Temperance's and Psyded's pics.
Psyded has a cause of death but Temperance does not have.

PSP's NPCs have the background of their relationship story, so she must have a cause of death, does't she? And Guidty's cause of death is written clearly in the explanation of another pack's object.
The settings you make must be reflected correctly in the game.

For your information: The issue that Temperance has no name in CAS mode has already a Bug Report.

Edit to add:
Tried to add the cause of death to Temperance.
As following pic, she is appear as a ghost.

In short, this issue's cause that they have no cause of death. But she has no name, and I don't know her full name. The thought was that if I finished the setting with an arbitrary name, it might lose her role as Temperance. So, I stopped to edit her. Moreover about the case of Guidry, he is not even appear in Manage Household panel. We, player can not add a cause of death to him.
So, EA team & devs, please add to them 'a cause of death'.

Edit to add ②:
@SovereignSims tested editing Guidry & Temperance's the cause of death.
The results: 'DO NOT EDIT CAUSE OF DEATH, SIMMERS!!'
See post #7 for more details.

Edit By Crinrict: Added tag to title

[Vitak-creator]

@Pick-a-boo_doo Also have this problem!

[Pick-a-boo_doo]

@Vitak-creator
Hi there
If you have the same problem, please click 'Me too' in the OP (#1 post) to increase the importance of the bug report.
Thank you.

[Vitak-creator]

@Pick-a-boo_doo I've made it in the first place

[Pick-a-boo_doo]

@Vitak-creator
Thank you.

[SovereignSims]

TS4, PC, English, 100% since update 1.110.265.1030 DX11, Own all except Lovestruck and Bust The Dust Kit, On Haunted Residential with Scare Seeker Lot Challenge applied, Mods removed/caches cleared/game repaired previous to update and important games (including event) re-saved vanilla.

@Pick-a-boo_doo 

I've also ticked 'Me Too' on your post as I'm seeing Guidry and Temperance exactly as depicted in your photos. My Reaper's Rewards sim (created for the event) lives in a Haunted Residential Lot. I've disabled Guidry visits for now. Although, there isn't a way to do so for Temperance. 

Additionally, the Von Haunt Estate ghosts don't have the same transparency issue. They appear as normal ghosts. I hope this will be resolved quickly. Imho, Paranormal Stuff is one of the best packs The Sims has ever created.

[SovereignSims]

@Pick-a-boo_doo 

RE: "The thought was that if I finished the setting with an arbitrary name, it might lose her role as Temperance."

I wanted to address your concern. I've edited both Temperance and Guidry in CAS over three separate saves. This was done to establish orientations/boundaries and likes/dislikes (they're sort of like family, these two).

I'd just added a full stop (.) after Temperance's name as she has no surname, and of course, we don't know it. It appears slightly strange but I'd grown used to it to a point at which it's hardly noticeable any more.

Guidry, I'd called (first) Claude René (surname) Duplantier. The name changes hadn't affected either of their roles as Paranormal Stuff NPCs. They've continued to function exactly as intended.

As for their causes of death..we can't be sure of those. I'd be willing to test my 'best guesses' from my Reaper's Rewards save and share the result, if any, of the additions. That's just one save, however. Ultimately, it's something I'm sure we'd like The Sims team to fix across all saved games.

Well, all simming and no sleep. I'll be testing CoD edits.

EDIT: Too bad. I'd edited both Guidry and Temperance to give them both CoDs. My Reaper's save has now generated a second Guidry. I don't know if my sim can handle two Claude René Duplantier Guidrys, EA AHQ!

Meaning, I don't know if I can handle two of him. He's a chatty one.

DO NOT EDIT CAUSE OF DEATH, SIMMERS!!

RE-EDIT FOR CLARITY: ANY CHANGES MADE TO NPCs FROM PARANORMAL STUFF COULD POTENTIALLY BUG THEM OUT> See post by@nojedzto 

[alien3creature]

it seems that all the premade ghost townies are messed up. whitaker and mr whiskers, as well as wished for ghost children. hopefully this is fixed before the ep is released, bc ghosts are a major part of gameplay

[Pick-a-boo_doo]

@SovereignSims
Thank you for testing!
So there is a possibility that it could cause strange behavior. As you say, it would be wise not to edit the cause of death of NPCs who have a role.
As for the cause of death of Guidry and Temperance, it is a hint to the player, but I think that the story writer could make it clear. The additional part is for the team. I'm sorry if the text is difficult to understand.
The content you tested has been very useful.
Thank you.

@alien3creature
Hi there
Captain Whitaker's issue has already own thread. Did you see and click 'Me too'?
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-CD-Captain-Whitaker-is-no-longer-a-ghost/td-p/14192516
If you don't yet, please see and click.
Thank you.

[crinrict]

@alien3creature Please use this for the wishing well: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/RGSP-Wishing-Well-Ghost-child-turned-back-to-human-No-more-gho...