[TO TEST] Build Mode Causes a LOT of Last Exceptions

[crybabyymae]

Hi Nick! Thank you for looking into this!
I don't think a save before it happens would be possible--it's very random.
I do have 2 saves that make it happen though, I could pass them to you!

Yes, that is the scroll, but I don't think it's object specific.

It seems to happen completely randomly.
Sometimes the LE happens immediately, the first item you place, sometimes it doesn't happen until a while later.

The LE pops up while in build mode, not live!

I wish I had more to tell you, but it really, really seems random.

At first, I couldn't figure out why it even happened, that's why I took the two saves & kept placing items until I could replicate it while I was waiting for it.

If there's any way I can show you, maybe screen recording? Let me know.
The first save I sent I've got it to happen every time.

[SilverwebLunaElf]

Yeah, it's definitely random as all [insert expletives]. I started a totally new save when it started in one right after the update...only for it to start happening in that new save file! I was adding a room to a second story, and it didn't seem to start till AFTER the roof was put back in place! No other changes besides adding a staircase and removing windows that weren't necessary anymore!

At first, I thought this was due to a UI mod I had...that's since been updated for the most recent patch. Now, I dunno what to think other than it's annoying!

[Rosehrtgirl]

I am having the same problem when placing items in build mode. I get this exception error over and over again after being in build mode for a while. Here is the exception error I am getting, That keeps repeating itself. For some reason I can't attach the file. I even got a blue screen of death from this error too. It is the same error simmers are posting on discord. Will here is an summary of it:

LE: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DTV0xQnTKjcBn2nIiMRfq1ixDcFBc5bo/view?usp=sharing.

I like to add at the time of this LE their was a child sim in the room I was placing objects in. I was placing objects from family inventory as well as new objects in the room.

Spoiler

<?xml version="1.0" ?><root>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>bbdf55f7724abaf35b6620e4</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2018-08-04 15:18:31</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.45.62.1020-1.200.000.360.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>animation_element.py:706</categoryid><desyncid>bbdf55f7724abaf35b6620e4</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in Sim Timeline: Exception resuming Element (RuntimeError: ASM Stand_Idle is being called repeatedly with a zero-length duration.&#13;&#10;Interaction: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.stand_Passive'&gt;&#13;&#10;Posture: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.posture_Stand'&gt;&#13;&#10;States: ('Stand_Idle',) -&gt; ('exit',)&#13;&#10&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 217, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 385, in _resume&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\animation_element.py", line 706, in do_begin&#13;&#10;RuntimeError: ASM Stand_Idle is being called repeatedly with a zero-length duration.&#13;&#10;Interaction: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.stand_Passive'&gt;&#13;&#10;Posture: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.posture_Stand'&gt;&#13;&#10;States: ('Stand_Idle',) -&gt; ('exit',)&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>bbdf55f7724abaf35b6620e4</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2018-08-04 15:18:57</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.45.62.1020-1.200.000.360.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>animation_element.py:706</categoryid><desyncid>bbdf55f7724abaf35b6620e4</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception in Sim Timeline: Exception resuming Element (RuntimeError: ASM Stand_Idle is being called repeatedly with a zero-length duration.&#13;&#10;Interaction: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.stand_Passive'&gt;&#13;&#10;Posture: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.posture_Stand'&gt;&#13;&#10;States: ('Stand_Idle',) -&gt; ('exit',)&#13;&#10&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 217, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 385, in _resume&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\animation_element.py", line 706, in do_begin&#13;&#10;RuntimeError: ASM Stand_Idle is being called repeatedly with a zero-length duration.&#13;&#10;Interaction: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.stand_Passive'&gt;&#13;&#10;Posture: &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.posture_Stand'&gt;&#13;&#10;States: ('Stand_Idle',) -&gt; ('exit',)&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;</desyncdata></report>

[BARWW]

I also have this problem since today (august 7) i went to build in san myshuno for the first time since forever and as soon as i place something in build i get exceptions every second. It only stops when i go to manage worlds but as soon as i started building in san myshuno i again got the exceptions. I went to newcrest and nothing happened there.

[kitkat1515]

As of 08\07\18 I am also having this issue. I had a wall T.V. hanging and placed a cat bed to the side of it on the ground when I began to receive spamming LE's.  

[SweetMelissaSims]

I am also having this problem starting today (August 7). Up until today the game was running perfectly and I haven't added any new mods or CC. My game was completely fine yesterday so I have no idea what's going on.

Like others have mentioned, I get the errors while in build/buy mode. They seem to start randomly, and once they start they don't stop and I have to exit the game. The lastexception file says: "RuntimeError: ASM Stand_Idle is being called repeatedly with a zero-length duration."

If anyone has any idea what this means and what might be causing this issue I would greatly appreciate any help! My game is basically unplayable at this point due to the endless script errors.

[MaddArchivist]

Nick, I've got a couple saves - one BEFORE I started getting the spamming in buybuild mode and one after - and I'll DM you the info shortly. So give me just a couple minutes and you should have them.

[SimQARobo]

Hello.

The team has determined the cause of this issue.  It can occur when resetting a Sim 50 times in Build Mode without going to Live Mode.  A Sim can be reset in Build Mode in multiple ways, including placing an object on top of a Sim, or replacing/bulldozing the lot.

While we look into it further, possible workarounds in the meantime are to either avoid resetting Sims in Build Mode, or to play in Live Mode for a bit then return to Build Mode.  (Playing in Live Mode for a bit should reset the counter that is linked to the exceptions.)

[crybabyymae]

I find that interesting, as both saves this has happened in, the sims were "out" of the lot, meaning they were still in the "landing" point from when you start a family. Therefore, I didn't get the reset from putting items near them, because they were off the lot. So, I'm not sure how I can avoid resetting them, if I can't even place anything near them? Are there other ways that reset things?

Also, going to live mode doesn't immediately stop the LE's, for me, going to manage worlds does, though.

[neontigah]

ok thank you! that makes sense for me, I was eating at a restaurant my sims were sitting down in and i went in and out of build mode about 3 times to edit some things which reset any sims sitting down at the time. Now its really bugging with my game, especially in live mode I keep getting the notification of the LE and my sims keep on debugging. Please let us know when you find the solution!