The same thing has happen to me during P4 of the HSTR. I even tested it to the point where I made sure every toon did not have any debuffs (by hitting Sion only) and then hit DN to only see his protection not move at all (Purple bar). Kind of frustrating when the opportunity to break a personal record and place higher in HSTR ranks for better rewards are shot down because of bug. I’ve invested so much into this raid, toons and game in general that it’s quite disappointing seeing the developers not look into this and to top it off having the reward system drop rate be terrible as well.
Can you (really) check this? It's obviously not working as intended and you can see several proof about it.
Hi all, as promised, I looked more into the interaction between Phase 4 Darth Nihilus and Nightsister teams (Mother Talzin Zeta) and here are my findings:
Things to take into account:
What causes Darth Nihilus to stack up a very large amount of Max Protection. Main factors are:
Old Daka using her basic on Darth Nihilus:
Mother Talzin using her basic:
In regards to this part that @gavant03 mentioned:
"-If Nihilus has multiple stacks of the plague debuff, his protection drain is triggered on a basic attack from MT even when she doesn’t have the defense down debuff."
If Mother Talzin doesn't have Defense Down but Nihilus has Plague, the following occurs: Talzin deals Special damage, gains Defense Down, then deals Special Damage to all Plagued enemies which results in Nihilus gaining 25% Max Protection because the damage comes from a character which has Defense Down and uses a basic ability. It has to do with the order of operations. -> Working as intended.
Only by taking into account the two scenarios mentioned above, it explains how at the end of a long Nightsister run in Phase 4 a player can no longer get through Nihilus's Protection when he is close to Enrage.
Hope this helps.
Thats the thing my protection is gone. I have defense down and i hit with basic. How does he take protection from me and add to max health when i have no protection. Lord of hunger doesn't state that nihilus takes from your total protection from beginning or base protection. It just states if u hit he takes your protection (25% or whatever and adds to his max protection). If u dont have protection he shouldnt be able to steal it.
Just bumping this thread.
That's my problem/query as well, Nihilus stealing protection from my characters that have no protection left. 25% of zero is still zero, right?
You're probably right, not the first time ability text has been a bit ambiguous/wrongly worded.
The whole setup is a bit weird then, the idea comes across as Nihilus is draining your protection & taking it for himself, so when your out of protection it seems like he's stealing it from out of thin air, or from the past.
Bit like the tax man.