[NEEDS SAVES] Teenage Sims grow up to young adults and do not get a third trait

by koba_sue
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Age Up Error Sims 4

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Platform: Console (Xbox)

Mods: No

Game version: Latest

Description: Whenever I go to age up my teenage sims she ages up but I don't get the pop-up to choose her new trait. She did have a teen aspiration so I thought maybe that was glitching it out but when I went back into the save to change it, the pop-up still wouldn't show to choose her next trait. Also the pop up to show her graduation status doesn't pop up either it doesn't even tell when graduation is.

My Packs:

HSY, Cottage Living, Snowy Escape, Discover University, Island Living, Get Famous, Seasons, Cats and Dogs, City Living, Get Together, Get To Work

DHD, Realm of Magic, Parenthood, Dine Out, Spa Day

Nifty Knitting, Tiny Living, Moschino, Laundry Day, Toddler, Bowling, Vintage Glamour, Backyard, Kids Room, Romantic Garden, Movie Hangout, Spooky, Cool Kitchen

 

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Message 51 of 82 (665 Views)

Re: Cant choose traits when aging up

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I’ve had this problem now with 2 teens, in addition to a ton of other bugs, since the update. I also own the new Lovestruck pack so not sure if it’s the pack or update. 

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LastException when aging a teen up to a young adult

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Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Often (50% - 99%)
What is your current game version number? 1.108.335.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? all except Lovestruck
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? age up a teen sim
What happens when the bug occurs? A last exception occurs, the menu to choose a third trait for the sim upon aging up, does not show up, and the sim does not receive any new traits regardless of character values (Parenthood) or high school performance (High School Years)
What do you expect to see? Teens who have been aged to young adults should be able to select a third trait, and any bonus traits they are eligible for upon aging up should be received.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure 

I have never seen this issue before today. From testing around with several save files, I think the bug might have to do specifically with teen sims who are in range to receive a character value trait (from Parenthood) upon aging up but I'm not 100% sure. I've attached the LastException file, and I can share a save file affected by the issue if it would help.

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Re: LastException when aging a teen up to a young adult

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Apologies!! I ran into issues uploading the LastException.txt file, so I'll just paste it here:

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<report><version>2</version><sessionid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-08-02 16:32:30</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.335.1020-1.300.000.188.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>graduation_service.py:83</categoryid><desyncid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception when applying action &lt;GraduationUpdateSims ParticipantType.Actor&gt; for loot loot_HSExit_AddGraduation(loot_actions=(&lt;GraduationUpdateSims ParticipantType.Actor&gt;, &lt;GraduationUpdateSims ParticipantType.Actor&gtWink, run_test_first=False, tests=CompoundTestList([(TraitTest(apply_thresholds_on_individual_basis=True, blacklist_trait_types=frozenset(), blacklist_traits=(&lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.trait_HSExit_Dropout'&gt;, &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.trait_HSExit_Expelled'&gt;, &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.trait_HSExit_Graduate_Early'&gtWink, num_blacklist_allowed=0, num_whitelist_required=1, subject=ParticipantType.Actor, tooltip=None, whitelist_trait_types=frozenset(), whitelist_traits=()),)])) (AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 222, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 517, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\time_service.py", line 117, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\animation_utils.py", line 457, in flush_all_animations&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 457, in flush&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 357, in _append_arb_to_element&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 247, in execute_and_merge_arb&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 274, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\native\animation\arb.py", line 385, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\interaction_elements.py", line 185, in _behavior_event_handler&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 404, in _do_behavior&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 62, in __call__&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_mixin.py", line 875, in advance_age&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_transition.py", line 352, in apply_aging_transition_loot&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 635, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot_basic_op.py", line 303, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_ops.py", line 52, in _apply_to_subject_and_target&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_service.py", line 83, in add_sim_info_as_graduating&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 21.58&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,253,0,5766&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX550 nvldumdx.dll 31.0.15.4626, GUID: D7B71E3E-5CDF-11CF-9E61-F8A90EC2D235&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-08-02 16:32:31</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.335.1020-1.300.000.188.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>graduation_service.py:83</categoryid><desyncid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception raised while handling clip events: (AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 222, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 517, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\time_service.py", line 117, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\animation_utils.py", line 457, in flush_all_animations&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 457, in flush&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 357, in _append_arb_to_element&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 247, in execute_and_merge_arb&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 274, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\native\animation\arb.py", line 385, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\interaction_elements.py", line 185, in _behavior_event_handler&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 404, in _do_behavior&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 62, in __call__&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_mixin.py", line 875, in advance_age&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_transition.py", line 352, in apply_aging_transition_loot&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 636, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot_basic_op.py", line 303, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_ops.py", line 52, in _apply_to_subject_and_target&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_service.py", line 83, in add_sim_info_as_graduating&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 21.58&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,253,0,5766&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX550 nvldumdx.dll 31.0.15.4626, GUID: D7B71E3E-5CDF-11CF-9E61-F8A90EC2D235&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-08-02 16:32:46</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.335.1020-1.300.000.188.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>graduation_service.py:83</categoryid><desyncid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception when applying action &lt;GraduationUpdateSims ParticipantType.Actor&gt; for loot loot_HSExit_AddGraduation(loot_actions=(&lt;GraduationUpdateSims ParticipantType.Actor&gt;, &lt;GraduationUpdateSims ParticipantType.Actor&gtWink, run_test_first=False, tests=CompoundTestList([(TraitTest(apply_thresholds_on_individual_basis=True, blacklist_trait_types=frozenset(), blacklist_traits=(&lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.trait_HSExit_Dropout'&gt;, &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.trait_HSExit_Expelled'&gt;, &lt;class 'sims4.tuning.instances.trait_HSExit_Graduate_Early'&gtWink, num_blacklist_allowed=0, num_whitelist_required=1, subject=ParticipantType.Actor, tooltip=None, whitelist_trait_types=frozenset(), whitelist_traits=()),)])) (AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 222, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 517, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\time_service.py", line 117, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\animation_utils.py", line 457, in flush_all_animations&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 457, in flush&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 357, in _append_arb_to_element&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 247, in execute_and_merge_arb&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 274, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\native\animation\arb.py", line 385, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\interaction_elements.py", line 185, in _behavior_event_handler&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 404, in _do_behavior&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 62, in __call__&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_mixin.py", line 875, in advance_age&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_transition.py", line 352, in apply_aging_transition_loot&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 635, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot_basic_op.py", line 303, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_ops.py", line 52, in _apply_to_subject_and_target&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_service.py", line 83, in add_sim_info_as_graduating&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 21.58&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,253,0,5766&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX550 nvldumdx.dll 31.0.15.4626, GUID: D7B71E3E-5CDF-11CF-9E61-F8A90EC2D235&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
<report><version>2</version><sessionid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2024-08-02 16:32:46</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.335.1020-1.300.000.188.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>graduation_service.py:83</categoryid><desyncid>bcd253b4810d6d9466ad6bb4</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception raised while handling clip events: (AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 222, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 517, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\time_service.py", line 117, in update&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\animation_utils.py", line 457, in flush_all_animations&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 457, in flush&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_accumulator.py", line 357, in _append_arb_to_element&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 247, in execute_and_merge_arb&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\animation\arb_element.py", line 274, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\native\animation\arb.py", line 385, in handle_events&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\interaction_elements.py", line 185, in _behavior_event_handler&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 404, in _do_behavior&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_element.py", line 62, in __call__&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_mixin.py", line 875, in advance_age&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\sims\aging\aging_transition.py", line 352, in apply_aging_transition_loot&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot.py", line 636, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\interactions\utils\loot_basic_op.py", line 303, in apply_to_resolver&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_ops.py", line 52, in _apply_to_subject_and_target&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\high_school_graduation\graduation_service.py", line 83, in add_sim_info_as_graduating&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 21.58&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,253,0,5766&#13; &#10;Modded: False&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX550 nvldumdx.dll 31.0.15.4626, GUID: D7B71E3E-5CDF-11CF-9E61-F8A90EC2D235&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>
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Re: LastException when aging a teen up to a young adult

Hero
@sincerely-samch Is this what you are seeing: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-SAVES-Teenage-Sims-grow-up-to-young-adults-and-do-not-ge... ?

No one posted an LE in that thread but it sounds the same from your symptom description.

Good Luck
Crin

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Re: LastException when aging a teen up to a young adult

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@sincerely-samch @crinrict
The exception is quite similar to the one we have been discussing about the error 123.

The interesting part: AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'in_minutes'

This seems to be another collateral damage caused by a change in how the game deals with time.
Message 56 of 82 (626 Views)

Aging sim up glitch

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Product: The Sims 4
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.96
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Seasons, StrangerVile, vampires, island living, paranormal stuff pack, realm of magic, discover university, eco lifestyle expansion pack, werewolves, cottage living, get famous, get to work, star wars: journey to batuu, jungle adventure, cats & dogs, city living, my first pet stuff, outdoor retreat, desert luxe kit, nifty knitting, bust the dust kit, romantic garden stuff, perfect patio stuff, get together, snowy escape, fashion street kit, vintage glamour stuff, dream home decorator, Moschino stuff, spooky stuff, spa day, high school years, my wedding stories, laundry day stuff, modern menswear kit, carnival streetwear kit, moonlight chic kit, fitness stuff, luxury party stuff, throwback fit kit, Incheon arrivals kit, blooming rooms kit, first fits kit, pastel pop kit, everyday clutter kit, simtimates collection kit, bathroom clutter kit, cool kitchen stuff, dine out, parenthood, growing together, tiny living, greenhouse haven kit, basement treasures kit, grunge revival kit, book nook kit, rockin rancher digital content, horse ranch, for rent, backyard stuff, kids room stuff, home chef hustle, toddler stuff, movie hangout stuff, crystal creations, urban homage kit, bowling night stuff, lovestruck
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Have a teen blow out candles on a birthday cake to age up
What happens when the bug occurs? I had my teen blow out the candles. The teen aged up to Young Adult. There wasn't a pop up to choose the final trait and to choose the aspiration. Young adult only has 2 traits and still has the teen aspiration.
What do you expect to see? There should be a pop up to choose aspiration and the final trait
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? On console - never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. Verion 1.96

I don't have any shots and afraid to play the game now 

Message 57 of 82 (606 Views)

Re: LastException when aging a teen up to a young adult

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@crinrict 

Possibly. I believe it might also be this bug reported in early 2023 though I have never seen it myself before yesterday. I have also attached a video of the bug in action after removing all mods if it helps:

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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Teenage Sims grow up to young adults and do not get a third tr

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This is now an issue with the latest patch again. My teens are aging up and not getting their traits for character values (e.g. responsibility, conflict resolution, etc) nor am I getting to pick a 3rd trait or new aspiration for the young adult sim when they've aged up. This means a lot of young adult sims only have 2 traits and still have Teen aspirations when they're not a teen anymore.

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Re: LastException when aging a teen up to a young adult

Hero
@sincerely-samch I do believe that's the same. I merged your post.

Good Luck
Crin

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