January 2021
@MisplacedMel Yes! I too started having the toddlers ask for everything possible. The fussy toddlers get a nice "got my way" moodlet from that, which is nice. It might sound crazy but I actually miss some of the defiance interactions. As annoying as they were, the short term negative effects made the game more realistic and those kids are kinda cute when they're mad lol I also miss the positive moodlets that came from comforting and calming them. However, I think it's worth sacrificing that to avoid these dumb long term sentiments that are just plain outrageous. I hope the developers are working on a resolution to the severe negative impact of sentiments, especially for toddlers.
January 2021 - last edited January 2021
negative sentiments are applied to sims when toddlers are sad or angry, this is the trigger. They don't last long.
Edit: Or low relationship. or negative relationship.
Here is some triggers of the hurt sentiment:
Parents going to work toddler sad because parent went to work.
Winter toddler is sad because its cold outside.
Thunderstorm/snowstorm. toddler is sad because of thunder/snowstorm.
Blizzard toddler is sad because of blizzard.
I hope this helps.
January 2021
Could anyone experiencing this issue possibly share a save file with me where it's occurring? You can DM me the link to your save, thanks so much for the help!
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January 2021 - last edited January 2021
@SimGuruNick Thank you! I just sent you the link to my most recent save on Google Drive. In my DM to you, I said that I understand why the sentiment was applied, meaning I understand how the game's algorithm assigned the sentiment. The reason I think it is assigned "without reason" is that toddlers should not be gaining these negative sentiments, especially when they're caused by things like comforting and/or toddler care in general. What's even more frustrating is that my toddler sims gain the negative sentiments relatively easy but do not gain positive sentiments at all. I typically have the parents interacting with their toddlers almost constantly; playing, flash cards, etc. They have not gained a positive sentiment even once since the sentiments were introduced. Thanks again for investigating this issue!
February 2021
One of my sims has the try for baby whim with her husband and now I'm thinking twice because of these issues, so I hope there'll be a quick solution for this. I've been waiting so long for this whim to trigger and now I have to leave it. Having said that, I guess I can code my way out of it, but surely this shouldn't happen to toddlers and parents. Feeling tearful as I type. (I know it's a game, but really it's helped me through lockdown and many other issues and I go to the game for some solace). Thanks if you can help us @SimGuruNick
February 2021
I sent you the save file with the first toddler that had this happen to me. I have another save, as well. The problem I'm having is that she went from hurt when her dad firmly disciplined her to deeply wounded after he'd had no further negative interactions.
February 2021
February 2021
This happened to me, too, with a mother and a toddler in a micro home. Good times! I have no idea what happened to prompt it.
Luckily, the double positive moodlet duration usually "covered up" any negative moods the sentiment caused, and she eventually grew out of it. I just had her mother interact positively with her as normal and ignored it. Sigh.
February 2021
February 2021 - last edited February 2021
@Gednaa Oy.
Yeah, my Sim parent (single mom) was/is Good, Cheerful, and Family-Oriented. I had some trouble getting the toddler to do flash cards with her mom because HURT for no reason and being around mom made her SAD or ANGRY, but toddlers take like two or three days to max all skills in a micro home. Maybe four if interacting with their parent in any way makes them SAD AND ANGRY so they can't learn to talk or use the potty without taking a skill hit from the negative moodlets, or if being in a 32 tile space with a person makes them SAD AND ANGRY without even interacting with them.
As soon as she was a child I put mother and child in a club and bought strongest camaraderie, so there was a +3 Happy, and left the club on 24x7 to "cover up" any sad or angry. Camaraderie +3 Happy + Micro Home Feelin' Fine All the Time ended up piling on a bunch of green happy moodlets (tasty food! comforting night light!), which meant that the only effect the sentiment had was a little red or blue sliver at the end of a pile of green and silver-gray. It eventually wore off.
I also had some siblings where a child made a sand castle in Sulani and his little toddler sister knocked it down and HURT BETRAYED SAD AND ANGRY and I ignored it until she aged up and then had her apologize ("I'm sorry you're such a brat that you're holding a deep festering grudge against me for something I did when I was a toddler!") and they were besties from then on. But at least she did something, even if it was an overreaction.
All that said, yeah, we shouldn't have to do that. I shouldn't have to create a club so a mother can care for her child without the child being HURT, SAD, AND ANGRY that her mother exists over some imagined slight.