[FIXED] [GTW] [DO] [CD] Business employees don't show
Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in? English How often does the bug occur? Rarely (0% - 9%) What is your current game version number? n/a What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? all of them Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? own a restaurant and open it. this happen 3 times past 2 days What happens when the bug occurs? everyone show up but waiters What do you expect to see? waiters showing up when you open you own restaurant Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used. Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure
my Sim own a restaurant, every once in a while when you open for business , cooks, host will show up for work but waiters. 3rd time this happen in 2 days
I have 2 waiters unlocked and both were showing up for work quite happily for several days. At my most recent visit to the restaurant, neither waiter showed up.
I tried closing the restaurant, leaving the lot and coming back and re-opening the restaurant, without success. ETA: I tried this multiple times.
I then tried firing both my waiters, leaving the lot, coming back and hiring new waiters. Nothing.
However, when I tried this a second time, one of the two new waiters showed up. The other didn't.
NB: I have no mods or custom content installed.
ETA:
Additional note - while it's been a known issue that sometimes one or more employees don't show up for no apparent reason in other venues (retail shops, vet clinics), restaurants are a more serious case. If none of a particular employee type shows up, the restaurant *cannot function as intended* and there is nothing that you as the owner can do to work around it.
Your only option seems to be to fire all of that employee type, wave goodbye to all the money you sunk into their training, and then hire new staff. Or according to a post on a separate forum, sometimes to delete the restaurant entirely and place a new copy.
ETA 2: Reopened the restaurant on the next sim day. Neither waiter showed up. I've sold it now because it's just not worth the aggravation until this is fixed.
My restaurant employees usually show up OK if I open the restaurant before travelling to it, then they are there working already by the time I arrive.
Haven't tried opening the restaurant while on the lot for a while, I remember that used to be quite glitchy sometimes when staff wouldn't appear, but I just assumed that was because the lot was at the 20 active sim capacity with some random townie in the background fishing somewhere blocking the staff showing up.
It's an issue in my restaurant and my retail store. I've never had a problem with my clinic though. However, like mentioned before, my restaurant's only an issue if I open it while on the lot. Opening beforehand, everyone's always there. As for my retail store .... well I spend most of my time reprimanding them for playing on their phones anyway so it's not a big deal if they show up or not.
Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in?English How often does the bug occur?Every time (100%) What is your current game version number?1.52.100.1020 What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed?All EP, all GP, Bowling Stuff, Movie Stuff, Romantic Garden Stuff, Spooky Stuff, Vintage Glamour Stuff. Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves?Start a new restaurant and open it. What happens when the bug occurs?Every employee shows up but the host. What do you expect to see?The host to show up along with the other employees Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods?Never used. Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system?Yes Please describe the patch or change you made.Either the 06/18/19 patch or island living did this. I don't know if it is related to the Uniform bug.
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my Sim own a restaurant, every once in a while when you open for business , cooks, host will show up for work but waiters. 3rd time this happen in 2 days
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Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in? English How often does the bug occur? Rarely (0% - 9%) What is your current game version number? n/a What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? all of them Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? own a restaurant and open it. this happen 3 times past 2 days What happens when the bug occurs? everyone show up but waiters What do you expect to see? waiters showing up when you open you own restaurant Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used. Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure
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my Sim own a restaurant, every once in a while when you open for business , cooks, host will show up for work but waiters. 3rd time this happen in 2 days
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I'm going to add this as it's been an issue for a while now.
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Made it more general though as it seems to also happen for retail, vet clinic and other Dine Out Employees.
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Added to Dine Out section
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This has just started happening to me.
I have 2 waiters unlocked and both were showing up for work quite happily for several days. At my most recent visit to the restaurant, neither waiter showed up.
I tried closing the restaurant, leaving the lot and coming back and re-opening the restaurant, without success. ETA: I tried this multiple times.
I then tried firing both my waiters, leaving the lot, coming back and hiring new waiters. Nothing.
However, when I tried this a second time, one of the two new waiters showed up. The other didn't.
NB: I have no mods or custom content installed.
ETA:
Additional note - while it's been a known issue that sometimes one or more employees don't show up for no apparent reason in other venues (retail shops, vet clinics), restaurants are a more serious case. If none of a particular employee type shows up, the restaurant *cannot function as intended* and there is nothing that you as the owner can do to work around it.
Your only option seems to be to fire all of that employee type, wave goodbye to all the money you sunk into their training, and then hire new staff. Or according to a post on a separate forum, sometimes to delete the restaurant entirely and place a new copy.
ETA 2: Reopened the restaurant on the next sim day. Neither waiter showed up. I've sold it now because it's just not worth the aggravation until this is fixed.
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Haven't tried opening the restaurant while on the lot for a while, I remember that used to be quite glitchy sometimes when staff wouldn't appear, but I just assumed that was because the lot was at the 20 active sim capacity with some random townie in the background fishing somewhere blocking the staff showing up.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2018-12-28T11:40:37.486-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-12-28T11:40:37.486-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":7535},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/message:11251822/message:11251827","repliesCount":1,"readOnly":true,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:11251828":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:11251828","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:11251828":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21971"},"id":"message:11251828","revisionNum":1,"uid":11251828,"depth":6,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:11251827"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11251822"},"subject":"Re: [FIXED] [GTW] [DO] [CD] Business employees don't show","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:11251828"},"body":"That could very well be a reason.
I tested a save the other day that had 25 household Sims (removing mods somehow didn't remove the extra Sims) and that kept any Sims from appearing :D","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"187","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2018-12-28T12:00:20.752-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-12-28T12:00:20.752-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":7522},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en/message:11251822/message:11251828","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:145041":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:145041","uid":145041,"login":"SaucyLegs69420","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-05-11T17:07:55.336-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1721239493000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:145041"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:11251829":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:11251829","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:11251829":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:145041"},"id":"message:11251829","revisionNum":1,"uid":11251829,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-bug-reports-archive-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:11251822"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:11251822"},"subject":"Re: [FIXED] [GTW] [DO] [CD] Business employees don't show","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:11251829"},"body":"
This has been happening in my vet clinic. I've hired 2 employees, but only one of them ever show up. It's the same person every time too.
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Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in?English How often does the bug occur?Every time (100%) What is your current game version number?1.52.100.1020 What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed?All EP, all GP, Bowling Stuff, Movie Stuff, Romantic Garden Stuff, Spooky Stuff, Vintage Glamour Stuff. Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves?Start a new restaurant and open it. What happens when the bug occurs?Every employee shows up but the host. What do you expect to see?The host to show up along with the other employees Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods?Never used. Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system?Yes Please describe the patch or change you made.Either the 06/18/19 patch or island living did this. I don't know if it is related to the Uniform bug.
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Special NPCs (like Michael Bell) are no longer available to be hired for restaurants, because they will show up inconsistently or not at all.
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Fixed in Patch 1.108.289/1.94 Please create a new thread if you're still experiencing this issues.
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