[FIXED] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

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Re: [OPEN] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

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Toddlers only have 2 whims/wants.

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Product: The Sims 4
Platform:Sony Playstation 4
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.63
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play as a toddler sim.
What happens when the bug occurs? Toddler sims only generate the same 2 wants: be friendly with, or be funny with.
What do you expect to see? Toddlers to have more wants.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? On console - never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. The update that replaced whims with wants and fears.

With the whims system, toddlers used to have plenty of different whims according to their trait/mood/relationships (e.g., a toddler looking for trouble would roll a whim to yell at another sim, a wild toddler would roll whims like hit/hug a stuffed animal or splash in the toilet, angry toddlers would roll whims like smash dollhouse, throw a tantrum, etc.)

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Re: Toddlers only have 2 whims/wants.

Champion

This looks like one example of repetitive wants. I just sent in a save where the dad kept wanting to listen to music - and every once and a while to flirt with a friend he had 0 romance with. The toddler only ever wanted to be friendly or funny with the dad, never to play with toys or in the sand or in the water - despite living on the beach and owning a bunch of toys.

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Re: Toddlers only have 2 whims/wants.

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for those with repetitive music wants, the pattern I'm seeing is that if your sim likes one or more genres, you get more music wants.
if the sim doesn't have a preference, you only get one listen to music or dance to stereo.

 

I have also noticed that not all stereos count, not yet vanilla tested, but if your listen to want didn't count, was it with the earbuds, the new one that came with HSY, the preorder one, or the smart one (the one that is a sim version of Alexa)? 

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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

Champion

So I've been playing around more and I think in part what's happening is essentially... unintentionally by design. Because it is by design that wants & fears aren't compatible with any of the packs other than high school, which I don't own. But I do own a bunch of packs, and when I start analyzing my Sims... oftentimes, all three traits, the aspiration, and the activity likes are from packs. Therefore, as far as the wants/fears system is concerned, most of my Sims have no traits, no aspiration, and no activity likes. Which is why they just always want to listen to music.

 

As for the fears being repetitive, too frequent, and overpowered... they're just bugged. It cannot be working as intended when every single Sim gets fear of dead end job every time they go to work.

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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

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Product: The Sims 4 
Platform: pc, windows 10
Which language are you playing the game in? Swedish
How often does the bug occur? literally all the time.
What is your current game version number? 1.91.205.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? highschool years, cottage living, snowy escape, eco lifestyle, discover univeristy, island living, get famous, seasons, cats and dogs, city living, get together, get to work, werewolves, my wedding stories, dreamhouse decorator, magic realm, djungle adventures, parenthood, dine out, spaday, outdoor retreat, niffty knitting, tiny living, moschino, my first pet, laundry day, toddler, fitness, bowling night vintage glamour, kids room, romantic garden, spooky, cool kitchen, perfect patio.
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? General gameplay.
What happens when the bug occurs? I havent gotten any repeating wants, but i always have atleast one fear active. most often its the fear of unfullfilled dreams. I solve the fear and not even 24 sim hours after that the fear is back. sometimes when playing i cant even discuss my fear with someone, the interaction for it just doesnt pop up. When that happens ive tried to talk to many sims about it, but as said the alternative for it doesnt pop up so i cant solve the fear. Its really annoying always having a fear because i my sims get tense all the time and sometimes so tense they cant to their homework, so when playing with discover university its super annoying because that effects my grades. Even if i try to turn off wants and fears its still there. I just dont see the wants/fears above my sims icon, but if i go into the personality tab i'll see they still have the fear. So i cant even turn it off. It affects my gameplay so much and it dont want it. 
What do you expect to see? I dont expect my sims to be afraid of unfullfilled dreams 24/7 thats for sure.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? yes i do, but ive played without it sometimes and it still happens so the cc and mods aint the problem.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. The July 26th, 2022 patch for High School Years.

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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

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@PipMenace This is an interesting way to break it down. I haven't studied too extensively about which of my Sims likes & activities come from where, but it does make me wonder if it will alleviate if I just get the HS pack. I haven't played much of the game since I've had this problem, among other problems, but I'll no doubt have another Sim marathon sooner or later.

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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

Champion
@PhoenixCordell Well…or just play more with base game. If I make sure to include one or two base game traits, it does seem to work better. But then why did I spend so much money on packs if I can’t use them?
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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

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Yes wants are almost constantly listening to whatever music they like. 

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Re: [NEEDS SAVES] Wants/Fears: Wants are very repetitive

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@PipMenace I totally agree.


But this is what puzzles me the most…why set it up so that buying more packs actually makes your game experience WORSE?!! I seriously do not understand this part of the game design/business strategy. Shouldn’t they include immersion for all packs in such a central (base game) gameplay feature? Wouldn’t that actually make people more interested in buying more packs, to get more interesting wants?

 

Please, update the Wants to include all packs!!!

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