Why don't Sims Care for themselves? [ Edited ]

[LiesSim]

This problem occurs when using Outdoor Retreat. One sim (+pet) stays at the bungalow while the other goes to the forest for some solo camping and exploring. There's no option to let the other sim take care of themselves (and dog). Had to stop the camping trip early to return home and discover the sim with almost all of their needs in deep red. 

I have no mods or cc. The option "take care of yourself" doesn't show when I click the lightning bolt, which was the first thing I tried (I use it quite often for family members when the sims go out on their own).

[crinrict]

Sounds like a different issue. Please make a new thread.

[Kaga87]

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? Deutsch
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? newest patch
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? all except "My first pet stuff"
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? travel to different lot without the whole household
What happens when the bug occurs? left behind householdmembers only take little care of themselfes and ignore toddler
What do you expect to see? that they take care of themselfes like before
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. recent patch and new Expansion

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Each time i leave the homelot with only one sim the ones left behind lose all their autonomously, sometimes if you are lucky the deadly-needs (like sleep and hunger) are taken care off.

Toddlers are completely ignored though!

My Sim came back from vacation and each household-member's needs were in deep red and they were frozen in place dancing. From the needs they should all be dead by long.

While on vacation only picture-colour changing was the toddlers. Sim went to work fine

[crinrict]

There's two threads for this:

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/WORKAROUND-Care-for-Self-for-Sims-at-different-lot-not-properl...
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Toddler-not-being-taken-care-of-at-daycare-low-needs/td-p...

Does it work for non-toddlers if you re-choose the care for self interaction ?

[crinrict]

Hi @Kaga87

did you see my question above ?

[TheSteelRodent]

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? BASE: 1.47.51.1020 (64 bit)
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All DLC, except for "Get Famous"
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Family with 2 adults, 1 child, 1 teen. When going with any of the sims to another lot for any reason, the sims left at home under AI control do not take care of any of their needs. Adults have the traits so they (usually) never have to pee/sleep/bathe, but they still have to eat twice a day. Children have none of these traits. Playing with autonomy on max (double checked in options for every sim in the family).
What happens when the bug occurs? Sims left at home (not coming along to the new active lot) end up with completely unresolved needs - near death situation. Children/teen do not do their homework, don't eat, don't use the toilet, don't bathe, don't resolve fun/social needs, and basically stop being able to function. Adult left behind (with the "cheat" traits) do not appear to have this issue.
What do you expect to see? Normal sim behaviour even when not on active lot - going to the toilet/eat/whatever. It used to work normally.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. Latest patch, 20 Nov (note, I haven't played in months. Only started it up again because I got Seasons)

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I will say that since this problem happens on the home lot when I'm not there, I cannot say whether they're not taking care of their needs or their needs just keep decaying either way. I've not paid enough attention to say whether there are any changes to the environment in the meantime (objects moving/getting dirty etc). The child does go to her scout meetings and the teen has mood swings when left to AI control this way, so they don't get completely unplugged. But because of this bug I do have to need cheat constantly, which messes up their daily routine. When trying to resolve their failing needs without cheating, their grades end up suffering because they don't have time for homework.

 It used to not be a problem leaving sims unattended for any period of time, but now I have to limit how much time I play without bringing the entire family along whenever I take the sims anywhere (which is problematic when taking them on dates etc), because there's a risk at least one of them will die if not on the active lot.

Only other family I've played since this patch are all vampires and don't really have any needs that decay, other than thirst, and since I normally take them hunting together I've not noticed this bug with them.

[crinrict]

Could you try if it works if you explicitly choose care for self again even if it's already chosen.

For toddlers it's a known issue.

[TheSteelRodent]

Choosing "care for self" do seem to make them try to fill their needs, but if I don't manually set it their needs just keep going down. The problem doesn't seem to affect adult sims, at least not severe enough that I notice it.

[crinrict]

hi @TheSteelRodent

thanks for checking. There is an open bug for having to choose care self manually so I merged your post with that

For the toddlers, see here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Toddler-not-being-taken-care-of-at-daycare-low-needs/m-p/...

[TheSteelRodent]

Cheers, I never found the old thread when I searched for this. Don't have any toddlers atm, but I may keep the link at hand in case it becomes an issue.