Was the new patch supposed to screw up autonomy? My adult sims won't stop doing things to the toddlers (and even randomly walking off to sit down for no reason) even with autonomy turned off. I can't keep on top of my toddlers' needs when the adults keep moving them around, putting them to bed for no reason etc.
\n\n(I have no mods or CC in my game, and never have)
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\n\n(I have no mods or CC in my game, and never have)
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\nIt's hard to fill a whim involving the toddler or just to even take care of it's basic needs without another sim getting in the way 24/7.
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If so, please zip up this folder: documents\\electronicarts\\thesims4\\saves and drop the file to this Mediafire-Link to upload.
Please make sure to name the zip file with your user name.
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\n\nI'll check it out tomorrow
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\n\nAdditional issue: if I load any game, every sim who was in bed wakes up and stands next to their bed. All my sims are so angry about being awake now!
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\n\nI do see them attend to toddlers needs when the toddler ask for it (which he does when his needs are low).
\n\nI didn't see the bed issue you were talking about or any excessive autonomy other than that
\n\n\nHave you tried repairing your game to see if it gets better ?
\n\nYou can also try resetting your user files as described in the factory reset described in this post: http://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4/FAQ-Troubleshooting-Steps-amp-Known-Issues/m-p/3621199
\n\nYou won't loose anything. Just make sure to not delete any files and make a backup.
\n\nTry on a new game with nothing added back first (start new game). If it works, put back your save game and try again. If it still works, you can start putting stuff back.
\n\nThe rest does not need putting back, cause they are mostly cache files that recreate or log files that are not needed for the game.
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If you have issues with Sims standing around doing nothing, please use this thread: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/NEEDS-INPUT-Autonomy-and-Needs-not-working/m-p/6881036#M64235
If you still have issues with the high chair or any other autonomy issues, please create a new thread.
@Somber_Cry Thanks for your save. I make sure it goes to the right place.
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