In yesterday's Laundry List we provided a behind the scenes look at the process we follow of identifying and resolving bugs in The Sims 4. In the interest of transparency as well as to preserve this information for future audiences I've transcribed it here as well:
🐞 Issue is Discovered & Verified
When a player reports an issue via our EA Forums, a friendly Community Manager or EA Forums superuser will see if help can be provided through troubleshooting and alternative methods to try, confirming if the game is working as intended, or if this may be an issue related to mods. If not, they'll check whether the issue has already been reported to merge it with an existing thread or start a new one. A ticket is then made for our Quality Assurance (QA) team to review. They may need to collect more information from players to reproduce the bug on their devices, which is critical for the next steps and why we always encourage players to provide as much specific detail as possible when reporting an issue.
Our Sims teams are also discovering and reporting issues internally that get documented alongside player reported issues. Due to the wide variety of freedom with The Sims 4, plus the randomness and variation in playstyles and player options, it’s impossible to truly test every possible scenario. This means that some issues may only appear in specific environments, and while we strive to address as many as we can prior to launch, we appreciate your understanding. When QA is able to reproduce the issue, they will file a ticket for an engineer to review and give it a severity rating, which can depend on how many votes it has received and how disruptive to gameplay the issue is for players. Your votes matter!
🔎 Fix is Investigated & Created
A team of engineers will be assigned to work on an issue and figure out the cause. The scope, type, and risk of bug fixes can vary wildly, from relatively simple fixes through to complete code system restructures. Given the almost infinite variations of devices, operating systems, unique combinations The Sims 4 content installed, unique gameplay styles, and mods downloaded, it can be no small feat to identify the root cause!
Once the engineer understands what’s causing the technical issue, they can start to plan how to best resolve it. Fixes can bring their own unique challenges, such as accidentally introducing more issues, which is the last thing we want to do. When the engineer has created a fix, the QA team comes back into the mix, to test each fix before it’s released to ensure the fix works as intended across all platforms.
🚀 Fix is Deployed to Players
If that all looks good, the code is then submitted for review for final approval. Once approved, it’s scheduled to be deployed during a specific release. We understand that with each update, there’s the potential to disrupt your gameplay, and so our team takes care to group as many fixes together as possible to limit downtime.
This essential yet often behind-the-scenes work involves collaboration across multiple teams. We prioritize issues based on both the reports and votes from the community, as well as the bugs identified by our QA team. Thank you for your continued reports and votes on what issues you want us to address!
This is a space for any feedback or questions on our investigation process; this is not a space for you to tag me to look into specific issues or bugs.
Comments that deviate from this topic will be removed or merged with their respective bug reports.
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Sul Sul!
\n
In yesterday's Laundry List we provided a behind the scenes look at the process we follow of identifying and resolving bugs in The Sims 4. In the interest of transparency as well as to preserve this information for future audiences I've transcribed it here as well:
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🐞 Issue is Discovered & Verified
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When a player reports an issue via our EA Forums, a friendly Community Manager or EA Forums superuser will see if help can be provided through troubleshooting and alternative methods to try, confirming if the game is working as intended, or if this may be an issue related to mods. If not, they'll check whether the issue has already been reported to merge it with an existing thread or start a new one. A ticket is then made for our Quality Assurance (QA) team to review. They may need to collect more information from players to reproduce the bug on their devices, which is critical for the next steps and why we always encourage players to provide as much specific detail as possible when reporting an issue.
\n
Our Sims teams are also discovering and reporting issues internally that get documented alongside player reported issues. Due to the wide variety of freedom with The Sims 4, plus the randomness and variation in playstyles and player options, it’s impossible to truly test every possible scenario. This means that some issues may only appear in specific environments, and while we strive to address as many as we can prior to launch, we appreciate your understanding. When QA is able to reproduce the issue, they will file a ticket for an engineer to review and give it a severity rating, which can depend on how many votes it has received and how disruptive to gameplay the issue is for players. Your votes matter!
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🔎 Fix is Investigated & Created
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A team of engineers will be assigned to work on an issue and figure out the cause. The scope, type, and risk of bug fixes can vary wildly, from relatively simple fixes through to complete code system restructures. Given the almost infinite variations of devices, operating systems, unique combinations The Sims 4 content installed, unique gameplay styles, and mods downloaded, it can be no small feat to identify the root cause!
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Once the engineer understands what’s causing the technical issue, they can start to plan how to best resolve it. Fixes can bring their own unique challenges, such as accidentally introducing more issues, which is the last thing we want to do. When the engineer has created a fix, the QA team comes back into the mix, to test each fix before it’s released to ensure the fix works as intended across all platforms.
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🚀 Fix is Deployed to Players
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If that all looks good, the code is then submitted for review for final approval. Once approved, it’s scheduled to be deployed during a specific release. We understand that with each update, there’s the potential to disrupt your gameplay, and so our team takes care to group as many fixes together as possible to limit downtime.
\n
This essential yet often behind-the-scenes work involves collaboration across multiple teams. We prioritize issues based on both the reports and votes from the community, as well as the bugs identified by our QA team. Thank you for your continued reports and votes on what issues you want us to address!
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Sul Sul!
\n
In yesterday's Laundry List we provided a behind the scenes look at the process we follow of identifying and resolving bugs in The Sims 4. In the interest of transparency as well as to preserve this information for future audiences I've transcribed it here as well:
\n
🐞 Issue is Discovered & Verified
\n
When a player reports an issue via our EA Forums, a friendly Community Manager or EA Forums superuser will see if help can be provided through troubleshooting and alternative methods to try, confirming if the game is working as intended, or if this may be an issue related to mods. If not, they'll check whether the issue has already been reported to merge it with an existing thread or start a new one. A ticket is then made for our Quality Assurance (QA) team to review. They may need to collect more information from players to reproduce the bug on their devices, which is critical for the next steps and why we always encourage players to provide as much specific detail as possible when reporting an issue.
\n
Our Sims teams are also discovering and reporting issues internally that get documented alongside player reported issues. Due to the wide variety of freedom with The Sims 4, plus the randomness and variation in playstyles and player options, it’s impossible to truly test every possible scenario. This means that some issues may only appear in specific environments, and while we strive to address as many as we can prior to launch, we appreciate your understanding. When QA is able to reproduce the issue, they will file a ticket for an engineer to review and give it a severity rating, which can depend on how many votes it has received and how disruptive to gameplay the issue is for players. Your votes matter!
\n
🔎 Fix is Investigated & Created
\n
A team of engineers will be assigned to work on an issue and figure out the cause. The scope, type, and risk of bug fixes can vary wildly, from relatively simple fixes through to complete code system restructures. Given the almost infinite variations of devices, operating systems, unique combinations The Sims 4 content installed, unique gameplay styles, and mods downloaded, it can be no small feat to identify the root cause!
\n
Once the engineer understands what’s causing the technical issue, they can start to plan how to best resolve it. Fixes can bring their own unique challenges, such as accidentally introducing more issues, which is the last thing we want to do. When the engineer has created a fix, the QA team comes back into the mix, to test each fix before it’s released to ensure the fix works as intended across all platforms.
\n
🚀 Fix is Deployed to Players
\n
If that all looks good, the code is then submitted for review for final approval. Once approved, it’s scheduled to be deployed during a specific release. We understand that with each update, there’s the potential to disrupt your gameplay, and so our team takes care to group as many fixes together as possible to limit downtime.
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This essential yet often behind-the-scenes work involves collaboration across multiple teams. We prioritize issues based on both the reports and votes from the community, as well as the bugs identified by our QA team. Thank you for your continued reports and votes on what issues you want us to address!
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I really appreciate the transparency. However, it would be helpful to mark some bugs as 'work in progress' or to share a bug fix roadmap with us. Some issues are very old and seem forgotten.
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I really appreciate the transparency. However, it would be helpful to mark some bugs as 'work in progress' or to share a bug fix roadmap with us. Some issues are very old and seem forgotten.
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Thanks for calling this out Sthenastia. The conversion of the Answers HQ style reporting system to the new EA Forums system lets us do this pretty easily.
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Technically anything below Incomplete Report in the table below (you can see this on the right side of the screen in the bug reports board) is under investigation:
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The end result seen above was focused on finding the right balance of information to share, choosing meaningful milestones over inundating you with a million statuses to track where a bug is on its journey. That being said, the table above is by no means final, we can (and will) edit things as we need to and add new statuses should the need arise.
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I'm always open to feedback, if you have any to share on how we can best help these forums meet your needs, please do so here.
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In my opinion, the issue is that there are too many bugs grouped under a single label, which makes it really difficult to tell what’s actually close to being resolved.
Maybe it would help to introduce a kind of tier list to better reflect progress and give a clearer picture of where things stand. For example:
Tier 1 – Nearing Resolution Bugs in final review or with fixes nearly ready to go.
Tier 2 – Actively Being Worked On Currently assigned and under active investigation.
Tier 3 – In Review or Queued Investigated, but not yet scheduled for a fix.
Tier 4 – Under Initial Assessment Newly reported or still being triaged.
Tier 5 – On Hold or Low Priority Waiting on more info, blocked, or considered low priority for now.
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I like this idea. It would make it easier to know where certain bugs are in the processes of being fixed.
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This explaination still doesn't help or give me any hope. Especially with bugs that are 6+ months old. I gave up playing Sims 4 in November of 2024 because of I was sick of waiting for certain bugs to be offically fixed. I now rely on modders to fix the game instead, because at least I know they are much faster.
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This is unfortunate but true for many gamers.
I try not to use mods so I can see the bugs directly play out in the game. This is how I can justify a true bug in the game.
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What's frustrating to me is that new bugs aren't being addressed quickly. The game is old; there are a lot of bugs that will probably never get fixed. But every time a new pack comes out, new bugs appear. And the worst part is, they aren't limited to what came in the pack. For example, there is now weather inside the house, as in rain and snow. That goes back to at least January. About FIVE months, now. It's one thing to slowly fix what's been wrong with the game for years, but it's ridiculous to introduce new bugs and not fix them promptly. It's like zero progress being made with the old one step forward two steps back routine we have going on.
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We need to get to a point where we as gamers stop asking for the game to be remade and demand bug fixes over new DLC... playing the game is the only way to know what is offered through DLC and what bugs are in the DLC.
I Want new worlds and playable DLC but not at the cost of game performance and playability.
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After years of dealing with The Sims 4’s ever-growing bug list, I’ve realized something: smaller packs (Kits/Stuff Packs) consistently have fewer bugs and get fixes faster than large Expansions or Game Packs. If EA wants this game to survive long-term, they need to rethink their DLC strategy—modular, smaller packs would reduce bugs, speed up fixes, and keep the game functional.
1. Smaller Packs = Fewer Bugs, Faster Fixes
Kits & Stuff Packs rarely have game-breaking bugs because they’re simpler. When issues do arise, they’re patched quicker (e.g., Bust the Dust fixes vs. Eco Lifestyle’s untouched mess).
Compare:
For Rent (Game Pack): Landlord system broken on launch, tenant AI glitches, event failures.
Tiny Living (Stuff Pack): Mostly stable, minor bugs fixed within weeks.
Less code = fewer conflicts. Expansions like Get Together (clubs) and Eco Lifestyle (N.A.P.s) break each other because their systems collide (N.A.P.s sometimes will override club activities). Smaller packs avoid this.
2. Big Packs Are Bug Factories
Expansions/Game Packs introduce complex systems that conflict with older content (e.g., Business and Hobbies’s small business venues vs. Get to Work’s retail rentals).
Testing is impossible at this scale. How can QA check every interaction between 20+ Expansions? Result: Bugs like:
Couples and celebrities invading in vacation worlds
Eco Lifestyle’s community lots broken
The more systems added, the more the game crumbles. We’re past the point of no return with 20+ large DLCs.
3. A Modular Future: How For Rent Could’ve Worked
Instead of one buggy Expansion Pack, imagine six smaller, stable packs:
Stuff Pack: Landlord Luxe
Rental lot type, landlord events, property aspirations.
Focus: Core rental mechanics (no fluff = easier to debug).
Stuff Pack: Neighborhood Hangout
Pool parties, Pot lucks, marbles, hopscotch, hot tubs, Generous/Cringe traits.
No systems that break existing gameplay.
Stuff Pack: Sneaky Secrets
Break-ins, spy career, Nosy trait.
Contained gameplay (no overlap with Detective career).
Stuff Pack: Fixer-Upper
Handyman career, mold system, water heaters, fuse boxes, ac, and furnaces, plus appliances that need repairs.
Solo systems = no conflicts with Bust the Dust or Eco Lifestyle.
Players love \"big\" Expansions—but would you rather have:
A stable game with smaller, functional packs?
Or broken \"EPs\" where key features don’t work for years?
EA’s current model is unsustainable. Every new Expansion adds 50+ bugs.
5. The Biggest Advantage of Smaller Packs: Fewer Bugs at Once
The single biggest benefit of smaller packs is that they introduce far fewer bugs per release. Instead of players and developers drowning in 50+ bugs from a single Expansion Pack, a Stuff Pack or Kit might only have 5-10 minor issues at launch.
Conclusion: Time for a Change
I know this isn’t what most players want to hear, but it’s what the game needs. Smaller packs would: ✅ Reduce bugs (simpler systems = fewer conflicts). ✅ Speed up fixes (easier to isolate issues). ✅ Let players customize their game (buy only what they’ll use).
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I can agree that if packs were smaller they might have less bugs and be easier to fix, but the main reason kits and stuff packs now have very few bugs is they don't introduce much in the way of new gameplay. They are mostly made up of objects with the same function as those in the game already (a new sofa or fridge, etc). That's one reason they are cheap (relatively; sort of a you get what you pay for) ; new animations take the longest to do. Some of the packs do have new items, but overall they are mostly just new in appearance.
I personally think that the reason everything moves so slow in the way of fixes is just the company's priorities. I know some bugs in the game might be hard to find, but the way the game has everything subdivided into individual xmls it shouldn't take that long to find a bug. Heck, they could just overwrite something that's not working and start from scratch. I mean, really? 100 people have left comments about weather inside houses and 190 have liked the opening comment. Yet they can't find it in five months? Or aren't sure if it should be fixed? Or just haven't found the time? I think there's been 7 patches in that time so plenty of chances to upload a fix.
But there have been 11, count them, 11 packs released starting in January of this year, and more on the way. There's money in new packs, none in fixing bugs (except to keep people happy, which has never been a priority). So what do you suppose most of the programmers are working on?
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Folks,
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This is a space for any feedback or questions on our investigation process; this is not a space for you to tag me to look into specific issues or bugs.
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Comments that deviate from this topic will be removed or merged with their respective bug reports.
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