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11 years ago

EA silence on family play and family play fans

I'm a family player-I've always loved creating families in sims, starting a family from scratch and watching as my family progress over multiple generations. I can play one family for years-and I loved seeing their progress from the original sim down to my current sim with a family tree. I love how different each family can be from another previous family-they all have different traits and it's so funny to watch the family dynamic in each family shift. I used to look at my family tree with pride-I would look back at all their photos with fond memories of the time I shared with those sims.

I love toddlers-they have much more personality than babies and are the start of a beautiful relationship with their family-their siblings and parents are challenged by them but they are very rewarding. They have so much potential for fun and mischief!

Babies in the sims 4 leave me cold-I really feel that making them be stuck to the bassinet is such a loss-with multitasking being the amazing new tool in the sims it seems ridiculous that they can't utilise that for new parents-the time when sims need the most help!

At first I was hopeful they would finish this game and add the omissions from family play. But given the lack of announcements and the patches being anything other than family play related I worry.

I felt like we really need to make it glaringly obvious to EA that family players exist given the lack of acknowledgement for our play style being thrown out-and that the omissions from sims4 can be game breaking for many of us.

I shouldn't have to ask this but please be polite and respectful in this thread-I'm not here looking to threaten anyone else's play-I'm just trying to give a voice to those of us who feel like we are being ignored by EA and want sims 4 to be universally loved!

Feel free to show us what you love about family play in previous sims games, a little story, a screenshot of a family you've loved to play with etc :-)

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I love toddlers-they have much more personality than babies and are the start of a beautiful relationship with their family-their siblings and parents are challenged by them but they are very rewarding. They have so much potential for fun and mischief!

Babies in the sims 4 leave me cold-I really feel that making them be stuck to the bassinet is such a loss-with multitasking being the amazing new tool in the sims it seems ridiculous that they can't utilise that for new parents-the time when sims need the most help!

At first I was hopeful they would finish this game and add the omissions from family play. But given the lack of announcements and the patches being anything other than family play related I worry.

I felt like we really need to make it glaringly obvious to EA that family players exist given the lack of acknowledgement for our play style being thrown out-and that the omissions from sims4 can be game breaking for many of us.

I shouldn't have to ask this but please be polite and respectful in this thread-I'm not here looking to threaten anyone else's play-I'm just trying to give a voice to those of us who feel like we are being ignored by EA and want sims 4 to be universally loved!

Feel free to show us what you love about family play in previous sims games, a little story, a screenshot of a family you've loved to play with etc :-)","body@stringLength":"2023","rawBody":"I'm a family player-I've always loved creating families in sims, starting a family from scratch and watching as my family progress over multiple generations. I can play one family for years-and I loved seeing their progress from the original sim down to my current sim with a family tree. I love how different each family can be from another previous family-they all have different traits and it's so funny to watch the family dynamic in each family shift. I used to look at my family tree with pride-I would look back at all their photos with fond memories of the time I shared with those sims.

I love toddlers-they have much more personality than babies and are the start of a beautiful relationship with their family-their siblings and parents are challenged by them but they are very rewarding. They have so much potential for fun and mischief!

Babies in the sims 4 leave me cold-I really feel that making them be stuck to the bassinet is such a loss-with multitasking being the amazing new tool in the sims it seems ridiculous that they can't utilise that for new parents-the time when sims need the most help!

At first I was hopeful they would finish this game and add the omissions from family play. But given the lack of announcements and the patches being anything other than family play related I worry.

I felt like we really need to make it glaringly obvious to EA that family players exist given the lack of acknowledgement for our play style being thrown out-and that the omissions from sims4 can be game breaking for many of us.

I shouldn't have to ask this but please be polite and respectful in this thread-I'm not here looking to threaten anyone else's play-I'm just trying to give a voice to those of us who feel like we are being ignored by EA and want sims 4 to be universally loved!

Feel free to show us what you love about family play in previous sims games, a little story, a screenshot of a family you've loved to play with etc :-)","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:04:08.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2416635_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":860117},"read":false,"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"searchSnippet":"I'm a family player-I've always loved creating families in sims, starting a family from scratch and watching as my family progress over multiple generations. 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EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416636"},"body":"I understand what you mean. And I agree.
There is definetly somthing missing in the game when it comes to family play. Family trees are a big part of it, and for a lot of people - toddlers.

But I think there´s more to it.
We need a generations EP.

Teens needs to be fleshed out, because at the moment there just isn´t anything to them. They don´t even look like teens, so there isn´t even a \"teen-shell\". We need family oriented traits, like nurturing. More family aspirations, and teen specific aspirations.

I do think this is coming. I think the developers are well aware of the many, many legacy stories from previous installations. I have hope.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:30:56.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:30:56.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":89},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:12":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:12","position":24,"name":"Legend","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:120955":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:120955","uid":120955,"login":"elliebreton","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-10T04:46:05.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://eaavatarservice.akamaized.net/production/avatar/prod/userAvatar/22646032/416x416.JPEG"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:12"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:120955"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416637":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416637","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416637":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:120955"},"id":"message:2416637","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416637","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416637,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416637"},"body":"Maybe EA are already hard at work on adding toddlers in and just keeping it a secret...

I am currently holding on in the hope that they are working on them and will bring them out of the hat for a patch or the first EP. If the first EP comes out and there are no toddlers by then, my hopes will cave as I can't see them waiting any longer than that. And that will be the end of TS4 for me :'(","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:34:13.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:34:13.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":71},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416638":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416638","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416638":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:94092"},"id":"message:2416638","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416638","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416638,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416638"},"body":"
\"elanorbreton;12990467\" wrote:
Maybe EA are already hard at work on adding toddlers in and just keeping it a secret...

I am currently holding on in the hope that they are working on them and will bring them out of the hat for a patch or the first EP. If the first EP comes out and there are no toddlers by then, my hopes will cave as I can't see them waiting any longer than that. And that will be the end of TS4 for me :'(


For me too. That's why I started this thread- I want it to be clear to EA that we do represent a key group within sims fans. I'd rather they just came out and said if we can have hope! This silence this far on is killing it for me :-(","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:45:16.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:45:16.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":43},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:180655":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:180655","uid":180655,"login":"jacijade","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-02T08:25:52.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1721239509000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:180655"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416639":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416639","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416639":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:180655"},"id":"message:2416639","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416639","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416639,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416639"},"body":"The dead silence on their part is a bit worrisome. I miss my family game play very much. That's not to say I don't enjoy some of Sims 4 new features, but it came at a cost to my play style and I'm not happy. I'm glad for the recent updates for those that wanted those things, but as a long time player (Sims 1) and almost every EP since, I can't help but feel let down. EA could throw us a bone IF they were planning an EP or updates for us. Didn't they announce pools and ghost beforehand? About all I do in Sims 4 lately is build or stare at that lonely icon. If the first EP is anything other than family, toddlers, generational play I'm afraid I won't be buying it either. Which is probably the reason they won't tell us anything because they know many of us will walk away. Sigh!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:49:05.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:49:05.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":47},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:8":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:8","position":20,"name":"Hero+","color":"ED8B00","icon":null,"rankStyle":"FILLED"},"User:user:63956":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:63956","uid":63956,"login":"luthienrising","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-08-08T17:08:09.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/images/dS02Mzk1Ni1jcE1WN2g?image-coordinates=5%2C0%2C730%2C725"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:8"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:63956"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416640":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416640","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416640":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:63956"},"id":"message:2416640","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416640","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416640,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416640"},"body":"1. I can't imagine how EA/Maxis could possibly not understand by now that there are people who want toddlers and generational play. Seriously. The requests have been met with a \"we hear you\", and have been deafening.
2. They have to be silent, until they're at the point of having something ready to release with a firm date. They've made that absolutely clear. \"We hear you\" is all they can say. They aren't going to suddenly persuade their lawyers that they can reveal stuff that's in development earlier than before just because fans started yet another topic asking for the same things, on yet another day. They could have half the dev team on generational play right now but they can't tell us.
3. That would be nice, though, if they did. It's just not going to happen, no matter how much EA/Maxis wants it to and no matter how many times we ask.

Maybe instead we could post pics of cute toddler clothes we'd like to see. At least it would feel like it could be productive. Wishing for info won't be.

(Personally, I'm hoping to get knitting and sewing with toddlers, so our Sim moms and grandmas can make cute stuff!)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:49:37.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:49:37.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":27},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"Rank:rank:16":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:16","position":28,"name":"Seasoned Veteran","color":"000000","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:40513":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:40513","uid":40513,"login":"Skyjd","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-05-31T05:26:02.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1721239591000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:16"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:40513"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416641":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416641","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416641":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:40513"},"id":"message:2416641","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416641","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416641,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416641"},"body":"I agree that family play is sadly lacking in this game. The Sims in this game are my favourite yet, and for the first time I've started doing challenges but find I get so far then it becomes blah!

In the past toddlers were not very important in my play style, but this game I think because of it's style and the quirky emotions had the potential to have the best family gameplay and toddlers.

I do believe we need family trees and all life stages in this game for it to feel complete.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:52:01.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:52:01.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":39},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:119308":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:119308","uid":119308,"login":"Bettyboop55","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-10-12T10:58:46.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1721239691000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:119308"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416642":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416642","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416642":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:119308"},"id":"message:2416642","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416642","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416642,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416642"},"body":"I agree with you. Sims is a life simulation sand the basis of any civilisation is the family unit. I really hope EAappreciate this fact and are addressing the lack of toddlers and \"adult\" teens.

Building is my first love and I am already upset that there will be no open worlds or CASt. However I also love my families and some have been with me since TS 2. I m waiting to play these but without toddlers and family related activities I am not prepared to start now.

Let's hope we have news soon. The continuing silence just shows how little EA value their existing fan base.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T04:52:35.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T04:52:35.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":38},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:112943":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:112943","uid":112943,"login":"shearsy","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-11-20T09:35:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1721239543000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:112943"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416643":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416643","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416643":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:112943"},"id":"message:2416643","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416643","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416643,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416643"},"body":"I am the same type of player as you and tend to only play one family and it's many generations. I feel EA has stripped away some of the most important features relating to family game play. I hope they have not forgotten about us and hope that in the future (preferably some of it patched free) story progression, toddlers, family trees, portraits, cameras and video recorders where we can actually see them. My fingers are crossed for the first EP to be generations. It's defiantly needed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T05:04:44.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T05:04:44.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":35},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:200755":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:200755","uid":200755,"login":"GoldenBuffy22","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-06-10T09:02:49.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1721239561000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:200755"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416644":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416644","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416644":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:200755"},"id":"message:2416644","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416644","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416644,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416644"},"body":"\"We hear you.\" They said that before when the Sims 4 was in development. And seeing and playing the game, and what is missing (open world, CASt, vehicles, etc.) makes me think they were not listening, and I wonder if they truly are listening now. I know we all have our own ideas of what should be included in a base game, but it's 2014, many games now launch with basics such as weather. Why are we still not getting that? And the toddlers, teens who look like adults, and of course there's more. It just makes me sad. I really do feel let down by EA with the Sims. I don't think it's fair that we have to continue to shell out money for things that could easily be included in a base game that is $60.

Even after it's launch and I watched Youtubers and their \"Let's Plays\", and I read over here on the forum, I was still on the fence, I wanted to play the game for myself. I finally got it last Sunday, and I'm already tired of playing it. :( I did not want that to happen. Right now I don't feel valued as a long time player - been playing since 2000 - and then ignoring us is like a slap in the face.

Please, EA and Maxis, listen to us. Make this game awesome! We know you can do it! Take what was so great with the previous Sims and improve upon their greatness, that's the game we want!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T05:04:59.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T05:04:59.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":20},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416645":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2416645","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2416645":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:94092"},"id":"message:2416645","entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:2416635/message:2416645","revisionNum":1,"uid":2416645,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2416635"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2416635"},"subject":"Re: EA silence on family play and family play fans","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2416645"},"body":"
\"luthienrising;12990492\" wrote:
1. I can't imagine how EA/Maxis could possibly not understand by now that there are people who want toddlers and generational play. Seriously. The requests have been met with a \"we hear you\", and have been deafening.
2. They have to be silent, until they're at the point of having something ready to release with a firm date. They've made that absolutely clear. \"We hear you\" is all they can say. They aren't going to suddenly persuade their lawyers that they can reveal stuff that's in development earlier than before just because fans started yet another topic asking for the same things, on yet another day. They could have half the dev team on generational play right now but they can't tell us.
3. That would be nice, though, if they did. It's just not going to happen, no matter how much EA/Maxis wants it to and no matter how many times we ask.

Maybe instead we could post pics of cute toddler clothes we'd like to see. At least it would feel like it could be productive. Wishing for info won't be.

(Personally, I'm hoping to get knitting and sewing with toddlers, so our Sim moms and grandmas can make cute stuff!)


Feel free to post ideas if that's how you feel-it's not going to harm anything! :-) even some favourite past screenshots with a little background story, I'd love to hear it and I'm sure others would too! :-)

Personally I just wish family players would be acknowledged properly-that's my issue. In the family tree thread they posted that a sim guru told them to write a family tree down to keep track. That's not fixing anything, I want the game to acknowledge family structure and familial relationships like in previous games-be it step family or aunties/uncles etc","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2014-11-23T05:05:54.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-11-23T05:05:54.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":11},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"showMoveIndicator":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1750071246428","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1750071246428","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1750071246428","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1750071246428","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1750071246428","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1750071246428","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1750071246428":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1750071246428","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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