They need like 50 experienced programmers devoting their expertise full time for a month to recode this game so it works. What are they even doing at EA? What’s going on that the game is so messed up and broken at new releases still?
No more bugs! No more releases until all the bugs are fixed!
This game is over 10 years old. How many updates have there been to fix bugs? Why is the game still broken? This is unacceptable.
For Rent is corrupting save files from its Residential Rentals, and the new expansion pack probably uses the same code as For Rent. WHY is a new expansion pack being released when it’s just going to be buggy?
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I'll tell you why, The Sims 4 is still in development so bugs are inevitable especially with new releases. Things won't go as planned for EVERYONE who plays the sims. So having frequent bug fixes that address our concerns would be really helpful. Saving them for patch updates seems to cause a lot of bugs to get lost and many aren't actually addressed despite it being listed as Solved. So frequent bug fixes would take account for that rather than waiting for another patch update release in a couple months time from the release of the current patch apparently addressing fixes.
The Sims 4 especially while it's in development still will NEVER be completely bug free and that's naive to think so. It's not like The Sims is a complete story with predictable set of goals for you to execute and get over with. So things going wrong are bound to happen while players run the numerous combinations of the many things you can do in the game.
EA already stated that they hired a team to address the bugs. They aren't doing a tremendous job. We don't need 50+ people fixing this game that would just cause so many issues within the company....who's paying for all these people? I don't even know how that's realistic. Expecting the game to be fixed by a profession team who is SO good at their job that the game will never have bugs seems really unrealistic.
The game is over a decade old. For it to STILL be in development and still have bugs despite all these bug fixes is ridiculous. And if there isn't a Sims 5 and they are just going to keep putting out content then they need to do better.
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They need like 50 experienced programmers devoting their expertise full time for a month to recode this game so it works. What are they even doing at EA? What’s going on that the game is so messed up and broken at new releases still?
No more bugs! No more releases until all the bugs are fixed!
This game is over 10 years old. How many updates have there been to fix bugs? Why is the game still broken? This is unacceptable.
For Rent is corrupting save files from its Residential Rentals, and the new expansion pack probably uses the same code as For Rent. WHY is a new expansion pack being released when it’s just going to be buggy?
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I'll tell you why, The Sims 4 is still in development so bugs are inevitable especially with new releases. Things won't go as planned for EVERYONE who plays the sims. So having frequent bug fixes that address our concerns would be really helpful. Saving them for patch updates seems to cause a lot of bugs to get lost and many aren't actually addressed despite it being listed as Solved. So frequent bug fixes would take account for that rather than waiting for another patch update release in a couple months time from the release of the current patch apparently addressing fixes.
The Sims 4 especially while it's in development still will NEVER be completely bug free and that's naive to think so. It's not like The Sims is a complete story with predictable set of goals for you to execute and get over with. So things going wrong are bound to happen while players run the numerous combinations of the many things you can do in the game.
EA already stated that they hired a team to address the bugs. They aren't doing a tremendous job. We don't need 50+ people fixing this game that would just cause so many issues within the company....who's paying for all these people? I don't even know how that's realistic. Expecting the game to be fixed by a profession team who is SO good at their job that the game will never have bugs seems really unrealistic.
The game is over a decade old. For it to STILL be in development and still have bugs despite all these bug fixes is ridiculous. And if there isn't a Sims 5 and they are just going to keep putting out content then they need to do better.
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12.
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So true and Not new...🙂
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