Custom League's dependencies for Racenet are terrible choice!!
What great mind at EA had the idea to remove the settings of creating a league on your screen, and need to scan a QR code on your phone to make a league? We have a friday race competition, always ...
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Please remove the Racenet dependency for Online competitions. Or at least offer both the old way and this Racenet way. It fails on so many levels:
- No option to select a Team and Driver spot
- No option to race On Demand (we never race at the same time or day, always when we feel like it)
- PSN Friends can not find eachother on Racenet, so all friend request need to be added on a seprate way. Not usefull
- All my RaceNet friends can join a league now, but I want to invite just a few specific people for leagues. Also not possible
It's realy a BAD option for casual League players. And that are A LOT of people. This option may be fun for big (international) leagues, but not for the normal players!
Because we want to have a ingame championship, so that we can see who's the champion after 10 races. And we all had that in the previous games, they just removed it now...... And that's a bad thing!
Hi @Raymond-Smits, I’m the product lead on Racenet and am really sorry to hear about this. Thank you for your feedback and points raised. I think they are very much valid. On-demand leagues is something we are working on right now to get into production as soon as possible, it was something we wanted to implement but other more pressing prioritise took precedence. I can’t give you a date just yet, but we are talking within the month I’d say. Below are answers to the other points you raised.
- No option to select a Team and Driver spot - This can be set in preferences, but we are working on the ability for owners/admins to make edits.
- No option to race On Demand (we never race at the same time or day, always when we feel like it) - As mentioned above, we are working on this now.
- PSN Friends can not find eachother on Racenet, so all friend request need to be added on a seprate way. - This was a restriction outside of our control, however we did add the ability for you to import PSN friends via add friends area.
- All my RaceNet friends can join a league now, but I want to invite just a few specific people for leagues. Also not possible. - We are working on the option for you to control if your league is either by invite only allowing you control.
Thanks for your reaction. It's a shame it isn;t available on release, but if you are working on it, that's something. Altrough the old option like we had was a much better envoierment to have League Races in, then with Racenet. Alot of people, like myself, work long days, and just want to enjoy some racing in the evening, without having to control a race outside of a game. We just want to sit down, start the game and play with eachother. And I think with Racenet, you lost the focus on this BIG group of players, and developed something for a smaller group of people with a certain gerne.
The option to select a TEAM AND DRIVER (Driver 1 or Driver 2) of a team is a big needed option. I saw you can set your preferences. But if everyone selects Redbull, then the person that log in first, has the redbull. that's not fair. We are grown-ups, and have made agreements about who drives what team. A preference will always have some flaws then.
About the PSN friends. That's the "Problem" that's created to remove a option from the game, and add it on a service outside of the game. Why remove something that worked good? And why replace something, if the product can;t do the same as the previous one?
Same for changing tracks. When we are online in our chat, we let someone chose the track we want to drive, a few minutes before we start, so nobody has the time to practice. Normaly I could change it INGAME. Now with this Racenet stuff, I need to get out of the simulator, start my Laptop or something, log on, and hope I can adjust it, and then crawl back etc. That's not how it should be. It should be possible for every gamer to change the setting on his CONSOLE or DEVICE, not by a third party website etc. Again, this is how MOST of the players game The options you provide is maybe fun for a small part, but it doesn;t work for the larger groep. And you lose your audience with it.
I realy can't understand who could make such choices in favor of just a small group of people?
@Raymond-Smits I would add to the above points the ability of being able to add AI bots to the League since it's a required feature at least to be coherent with last year title.
Can you confirm whether AI is or is not going to be enabled also?
Not having this totally defeats the purpose of leagues with friends (unless you have 19 friends who can all play at the same time!).
I am very disappointed that the only game mode myself and my friends play has been so totally changed/removed.... None of us will be buying until that is fixed ☹️
@DarthDonkeyRacer Thanks for adding your support - we are obviously not the only ones, there will be so many people in the same situation who play only leagues! Hope this all gets sorted within a couple of weeks - but knowing EA, it will be months or even an entire year.
@jasononguk Will the ability to add AI into league be added back in like it was in previous games so smaller leagues can fill out the grid. Kind of a big deal that its now gone
I didn't had time to test the game yet but if removing leagues from in game is true, is a big let down IMO. Doing leagues on racenet and without the option to have on demand and to add AI will make some people not to buy the game! If i am not wrong same solution was in Dirt Rally or Dirt 2.0 and is the reason i didn't played that much. I played F1 games in a small league with 2-3 friends (AI completing the grid) for years and it was just fine.
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League's dependencies for Racenet are terrible choice!!","id":"message:8341736","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":274,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:69449"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8341736"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8341736"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":" What great mind at EA had the idea to remove the settings of creating a league on your screen, and need to scan a QR code on your phone to make a league? 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What great mind at EA had the idea to remove the settings of creating a league on your screen, and need to scan a QR code on your phone to make a league?
We have a friday race competition, always starting at diffrent times, as soon as everyone is online. We now only have the option to start on fixed time? WHY?!?!?!?!?!
And the fun part was that we could adjust the race 10 minutes before we started. Now everything needs to be planned. That's no fun!
We just want to setup a simple league, with 10 tracks selected, and start every race when we want to. If it's on a friday, saterday or sunday, that's out decission! You take away our freedom of racing!
And we want to select a team/driver we want! Not by a preffered setting or something. The league setting was something that was already good, and now you broke it!!!
Please remove this stupid feature and give us the old league setting system back!
What great mind at EA had the idea to remove the settings of creating a league on your screen, and need to scan a QR code on your phone to make a league?
We have a friday race competition, always starting at diffrent times, as soon as everyone is online. We now only have the option to start on fixed time? WHY?!?!?!?!?!
And the fun part was that we could adjust the race 10 minutes before we started. Now everything needs to be planned. That's no fun!
We just want to setup a simple league, with 10 tracks selected, and start every race when we want to. If it's on a friday, saterday or sunday, that's out decission! You take away our freedom of racing!
And we want to select a team/driver we want! Not by a preffered setting or something. The league setting was something that was already good, and now you broke it!!!
Please remove this stupid feature and give us the old league setting system back!
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Please remove the Racenet dependency for Online competitions. Or at least offer both the old way and this Racenet way. It fails on so many levels:
- No option to select a Team and Driver spot
- No option to race On Demand (we never race at the same time or day, always when we feel like it)
- PSN Friends can not find eachother on Racenet, so all friend request need to be added on a seprate way. Not usefull
- All my RaceNet friends can join a league now, but I want to invite just a few specific people for leagues. Also not possible
It's realy a BAD option for casual League players. And that are A LOT of people. This option may be fun for big (international) leagues, but not for the normal players!
Come on EA, make it EASY AGAIN!!!!
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Please remove the Racenet dependency for Online competitions. Or at least offer both the old way and this Racenet way. It fails on so many levels:
- No option to select a Team and Driver spot
- No option to race On Demand (we never race at the same time or day, always when we feel like it)
- PSN Friends can not find eachother on Racenet, so all friend request need to be added on a seprate way. Not usefull
- All my RaceNet friends can join a league now, but I want to invite just a few specific people for leagues. Also not possible
It's realy a BAD option for casual League players. And that are A LOT of people. This option may be fun for big (international) leagues, but not for the normal players!
Come on EA, make it EASY AGAIN!!!!
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Hi @Raymond-Smits, I’m the product lead on Racenet and am really sorry to hear about this. Thank you for your feedback and points raised. I think they are very much valid. On-demand leagues is something we are working on right now to get into production as soon as possible, it was something we wanted to implement but other more pressing prioritise took precedence. I can’t give you a date just yet, but we are talking within the month I’d say. Below are answers to the other points you raised.
- No option to select a Team and Driver spot - This can be set in preferences, but we are working on the ability for owners/admins to make edits.
- No option to race On Demand (we never race at the same time or day, always when we feel like it) - As mentioned above, we are working on this now.
- PSN Friends can not find eachother on Racenet, so all friend request need to be added on a seprate way. - This was a restriction outside of our control, however we did add the ability for you to import PSN friends via add friends area.
- All my RaceNet friends can join a league now, but I want to invite just a few specific people for leagues. Also not possible. - We are working on the option for you to control if your league is either by invite only allowing you control.
Thanks, Jason
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Why not just use the normal multiplayer mode instead of the league racing mode?
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Because we want to have a ingame championship, so that we can see who's the champion after 10 races. And we all had that in the previous games, they just removed it now...... And that's a bad thing!
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Thanks for your reaction. It's a shame it isn;t available on release, but if you are working on it, that's something. Altrough the old option like we had was a much better envoierment to have League Races in, then with Racenet. Alot of people, like myself, work long days, and just want to enjoy some racing in the evening, without having to control a race outside of a game. We just want to sit down, start the game and play with eachother. And I think with Racenet, you lost the focus on this BIG group of players, and developed something for a smaller group of people with a certain gerne.
The option to select a TEAM AND DRIVER (Driver 1 or Driver 2) of a team is a big needed option. I saw you can set your preferences. But if everyone selects Redbull, then the person that log in first, has the redbull. that's not fair. We are grown-ups, and have made agreements about who drives what team. A preference will always have some flaws then.
About the PSN friends. That's the \"Problem\" that's created to remove a option from the game, and add it on a service outside of the game. Why remove something that worked good? And why replace something, if the product can;t do the same as the previous one?
Same for changing tracks. When we are online in our chat, we let someone chose the track we want to drive, a few minutes before we start, so nobody has the time to practice. Normaly I could change it INGAME. Now with this Racenet stuff, I need to get out of the simulator, start my Laptop or something, log on, and hope I can adjust it, and then crawl back etc. That's not how it should be. It should be possible for every gamer to change the setting on his CONSOLE or DEVICE, not by a third party website etc. Again, this is how MOST of the players game The options you provide is maybe fun for a small part, but it doesn;t work for the larger groep. And you lose your audience with it.
I realy can't understand who could make such choices in favor of just a small group of people?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":7,"postTime":"2023-06-13T04:51:55.264-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-06-13T04:51:55.264-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":9038},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:f1-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:f1-23-en/message:8341736/message:8341743","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8aXwxfDM5OjF8aW50LDgzNDE3NDQsODM0MTc0NA","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8341744"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:8341744":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:8341744","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8341744":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:5190002"},"id":"message:8341744","revisionNum":1,"uid":8341744,"depth":4,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:8341743"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8341736"},"subject":"Re: Custom League's dependencies for Racenet are terrible choice!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8341744"},"body":"@Raymond-Smits I would add to the above points the ability of being able to add AI bots to the League since it's a required feature at least to be coherent with last year title.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"177","kudosSumWeight":7,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-06-13T05:26:08.401-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-06-13T05:26:08.401-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":9015},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:f1-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:f1-23-en/message:8341736/message:8341744","customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:826303":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:826303","uid":826303,"login":"DarthDonkeyRace","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2022-08-10T05:08:55.501-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1721239641000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:826303"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:8341745":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:8341745","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"User:user:4243983":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:4243983","uid":4243983,"login":"timinator2014","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-01-04T05:57:53.338-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1721239509000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:4243983"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:8341745":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":8341745,"id":"message:8341745","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:826303"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":3,"depth":3,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:f1-23-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"AcceptedSolutionMessage:message:8341742"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:8341736"},"subject":"Re: Custom League's dependencies for Racenet are terrible choice!!","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:8341745"},"body":"
Can you confirm whether AI is or is not going to be enabled also?
Not having this totally defeats the purpose of leagues with friends (unless you have 19 friends who can all play at the same time!).
I am very disappointed that the only game mode myself and my friends play has been so totally changed/removed.... None of us will be buying until that is fixed ☹️
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@jasononguk Will the ability to add AI into league be added back in like it was in previous games so smaller leagues can fill out the grid. Kind of a big deal that its now gone
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I didn't had time to test the game yet but if removing leagues from in game is true, is a big let down IMO. Doing leagues on racenet and without the option to have on demand and to add AI will make some people not to buy the game! If i am not wrong same solution was in Dirt Rally or Dirt 2.0 and is the reason i didn't played that much. I played F1 games in a small league with 2-3 friends (AI completing the grid) for years and it was just fine.
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This, honestly who thought it was a good idea to force us on a separate app AND device in some cases just to set up leagues good lord.
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Yeah and take away important features on top of that 😂😂
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We have to keep this threat alive and in top and let them know how stupid it is for the Casual and half pro gamers is. They will fix
