Lucanis Romance Super Disappointing

We didn't find a copy of Rook in Lucanis' mind, but we did find a copy of Neve. It's obvious who is most important to him.🙄

I noticed it from the jump with his line in Inner Demons, and it was the turning point that made me realize his relationship with Rook was awful and underdeveloped, and it was going to stay that way. It was one of those “well…that was weird…” moments that made me realize just how little Rook affects the companions outside of their very specific story missions, and even inside them. Rook is not the main character and not the glue holding everyone together like Hero, Hawke, or Quizzy.

I have no idea why they thought giving the romances more lines about each other than about the player character was a good idea. Thinking about the time spent writing and recording those lines while Rook’s relationships with the companions suffered in purgatory makes me want to vomit lol I don’t care about how Neve and Lucanis feel about each other! I’m the player character! How do they feel about ROOK? How do they interact with ROOK? Why am I watching them fall in love and still able to flirt with them?

Please, someone tweet something or post something and put us out of our misery; why did this happen and is it possible to fix it? Do you hear us?

Well, I'm glad I read all of this!  I started a playthrough romancing Davrin and good grief it moved so slow and bland.  Every time I came back to the Lighthouse they had him placed somewhere else talking to another companion, sort of like they are preventing you from talking to your love interest.  And, after reading enough, I see that is the deal with every romance you try.

With Davrin, I did get a comment from Emmerich about Davrin and I, but outside of a quick kiss and a couple of adventures with Assan, that's about it so far.  Just bland and boring.

I also started a playthrough to romance Lucanis and the scene before the coffee shop scene where he tell Teia to stop flirting with this... colleague, then the coffee scene is okay I guess - kind of hints at what should be things to come.  Only it never does, right?

Sad, sad, sad.  I could have written better stuff than this.   There is almost no reason for this to be rated mature.

Ironically to your user name because I've been thinking about this -- after getting locked out of Lucanis, I went for Davrin. I actually really enjoyed Davrin's romance for what it was -- anything was better than the awfulness I had just been handed. Which ticked me off even more that Davrin's romance was overshadowed by my continued outrage about Lucanis. The game refused to stop rubbing in my face that they ripped the Lucanis romance away from me. Davrin had one super hot moment when flirting, I was actually fanning myself a little bit, and had hope that there would be major payout. Every time I thought, maybe it's for the best that it didn't work out with Lucanis -- Davrin's mega hot, emotionally available, AND I can get a griffon stepkid? HELL YEAH. I can overlook the repetitive conversations that don't do anything to move his story forward, and the bizarre obsession with the game about fiber and griffon poop, I feel like there are plenty of other things that could have served Davrin's precious voice time better. But then I had to be affronted with Neve and Lucanis flirting, Lucanis asking me dating advice for Neve like we're best friends (like what???? I was not the one who wanted to end this romance, I don't give a !@#$ about your gooseberry pie, Mr. I Don't Have Time.)

I had the thought that they ended up doing for Davrin what BG3 failed to do for Wyll. Both of them being lawful good. Davrin is a great example of being a good guy who also has that sexy undertone when he wants. 

BUT I feel like BioWare Wyll'd every single character including Davrin by the end in making Rook decide their fates for them, in such a binary simplistic way. What the hell. Every single character I was screaming inside because I could think of at least three additional choices to make for them instead of the super weird and frankly insulting two that I utterly disagreed with, or hated the results of. For every single character.

Also, I think the marketing team in dread and terror saw how popular BG3 was and why, and tried to like sneak DATV into the nest like we wouldn't notice??? Deep and complex romance, mature themes, nudity! There was NO nudity I saw outside of the character creation, none. Why have that be a thing if it's not a thing? And the initial awesome flirting with Davrin sadly devolved into a sterile nothing burger in the end.

The entire game was so watered down that it lost all flavor. Super sad. I can't believe how much they botched it when it came to the characters.

I completely agree with everything you said.  I chose Davrin to try to romance first, partly because Larian botched up so many things about Wyll's romance (modders have fixed a few thinigs here and there, but not the overall disdain that Larian seemed to have for Wyll) and was hoping, according to the marketing like you said, that DATV did all of this right!

But, what seemed like a nice little romance starting, turned into repetitive food and poop scenes with Davrin, like you mentioned.  So, I started another game to romance Lucanis - I mean, he's Italian right - a natural romantic... am I right?  In looking for some way to get word to BioWare (haven't found much of a way to do that) how much they blew it, I found all the info on this board and now I'm depressed even about Lucanis.  And, you hit the nail on the head about Lucanis asking for dating advice with Neve while I'm "trying" to romance Davrin - now that I know the whole story, that just sucks that they throw that in your face!

It's almost like they intentionally made all these romances and side romances, and as I'm finding out now there is no nudity - all to just say "screw you fans for now liking Anthem," or something... I don't know what could have been in the minds of those who surely knew of all the success that BG3 has had, and surely they looked at mod resources *(Nexus Mods an obvious place) to see what all the fans really wanted to see in a game - you can tell what they didn't get right in a game by what mods are usually made and become popular.  It makes me wonder if humans or an "up and coming" AI is actually running EA and BioWare.

So, I'm at the point of no return in the story with Davrin - now that I know nothing more happens, I don't really have anything much pulling me back to finish the game.  Just the obvious curiosity of what happens in the end in general is the only thing - I obviously won't be happy with any of the romantic endings.

This game is fit for young innocent fans, not adults!  Outside of a little gore and a few slang words, there's nothing else "adult" about this game.  Given 10 years in the making, I'm fairly sure the cost of this production is quiet steep and with the results at this point, raise your hand if you think they'll make a profit.

The best thing BioWare games have going for them, relative to other game studios, is that they actually take the time and effort to give the protagonist a voice.  Cyberpunk was too lazy to make a 3rd person cam - Bethesda took a step backwards from Fallout 4 (which had a speaking protagonist) to Starfield by not having speaking lines for the protagonist.  At least Bethesda games are easy to mod, though.

I'll likely end up cancelling my EA PlayPro plan - I guess I can't ask for a refund of any sort for this game, but I may try just to tick them off.

They didn't seem to hear us when we were all screaming at them that we weren't feeling the combat, POV, 2 companions in the world only, and a handful of other things pre-release. Why would they listen post-release? 

I am not holding out any hope that they are going to add or fix content - the game probably didn't even sell enough copies to break even much less encourage them to make adjustments like Larian did with their game. 

I can't believe we came from Inquisition to this. Like it or hate it, Inquisition was at least a complete, total product that really put the player character at the center of the story.

I have been playing DA since Origins. The story and romances in the first three games was great in comparison to DAV. I think the romances in DAV are lacking as well. I share the same views as listed above. I don't like how you spend more time focusing on everyone else's relationships but can't get enough screen time with your romantic interest. I think with all the people that were "let go" during the making of DAV has caused the things that most everyone liked about the DA franchise, to suffer. It's stupid that you can't get to know your character better. 

+111111 That really disapoiting, we have inquisition with Cullen, Solas, Dorian, Blackwall, Bull... Romances with real fire and the possibility to interact with them has we want. The romances is a part of the all story.
Here... you gave nothing and Lucanis romance is the worst of them. After the "no kiss" scene, i have a party banter with taash, telling we are together ? 
Like what ?! Oo Sorry but, i wasn't there or i missed something ? That make no sence.
And yes, Lucanis et Neve interact more than we can do with him, and for real, all other compagnon interact more like we do.
I played since the first one and, the romance was a big part of the story. Don't lose the soul of Dragon Age, you made a good story but, we ask you to approve the romance of Lucanis. This caracter deserve much better. Pls, made beautiful scenes for him.

A beautiful patch like Larian does will be perfect :)

Now that I have also seen what kind of moments were thought for Lucanis’s romance, it makes it even more sad. Romantic condola cruise in Treviso or even more intimate scenes. But mostly, that would have been THE first kiss for this type broody character. I wish we would have had that the most.

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I was already disappointed with the romance, but after seeing the sketches...oh man...It made the whole situation so much worse for me. It's like you went at one of the best places at your city to order a sandwich and they gave you a slightly burned toast with undercooked egg on top. And then one of the chefs showed you a picture of a perfect sandwich with the words: 'Well, dude I was going to make you something like this, but...'. On the other hand I'm grateful coz now I know they actually had a potential, but someone chose to ruin it. I wish I knew whose choice it was then I could send them a picture of my money with the words: 'There is what I was going to spend for the next game, but sorry, never happens.'