[FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

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[FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

[ Edited ]
Hero

Problem

 

While saving I get the error message: Error 12 (or 13 or 15 or 16). Please see Read-Me for more information.

 

Meaning of the Errors

 

Error 12: World file save failure. Mostly Memory related

Error 13: Post-save callback failure. Unclear what that means. They fixed an error that was causing this and it seems to not occur as often.

Error 15: Open failure. You probably don't have enough rights to write in the folder.

Error 16: Loose file copy failure. The file cannot be (over)written.

 

Avoidance & limitation of possible loss

 

  • Since Error 12 seems to be caused by memory issues, a 64-bit operating system and at least 4 GB of RAM might help avoiding this error. EA altered the executable file with Patch 1.17/etc so that the game can allocate 4 GB of RAM. It helps to upgrade your system.
  • Make sure your Computer fulfills the minimum requirements (EAs minimum requirements are a little low, especially with all EPs)
  • Save often and in cycles (5-10 savegames with different names
  • Regularly make a backup of your user files in documents.
  • Check the folder CurrentGame.sims3 in documents before starting the game. It should be empty. It only contains data during gameplay. If your game crashed, this folder might still contain something. Move or delete it's content.
  • Make sure your saves Folder in documents doesn't contain any saves with the extension .bad. Delete those, they are unusable.
  • Increase your virtual memory
  • Start your game in compatibility mode  and/or as administrator
  • If you are running Direct 10 or 11 (Windows Key - R, then type dxdiag), try installing DirectX 9 as well
  • Make sure you have enough room on your hard drive
  • Defrag your System
  • Don't play long game sessions. Quit and restart the game in between.
  • If the error occurs regularly in one game but not so much in others, move your sims to a new town. This will loose you all relationships to other Sims but you can keep your family with all their progress.
  • Custom Content and Mods can cause all kinds of Error.
  • The memory system introduced with Patch 1.21/1.22 bloats your save game enormously. This can become heavy on your RAM. Delete memories for your active/inactive Sims that you don't need.

Suggestions

 

You can try the following suggestions while the game is running and then try saving again. As soon as you get the error, the save is written to a folder with the extension .bad. You'll find it in your saves folder. Delete that folder before continuing.

 

Error 12 & Error 13 

 

  • Use save as and a new name instead of save
  • Try saving in Edit Town mode as well as live mode
  • Try saving your game paused and unpaused and at different speed levels.
  • Move your saves folder to the desktop
  • Never use save & quit. Always save your game first and then quit the game without saving.
  • Don't use spaces or special chars in your save game names.
  • If you have lots of stuff in your inventory, reduce it.
  • If all fails, quit your game without saving and restore a backup.

Error 15

 

Error 15 occurs when you don't have enough rights to access the saves folder. Make sure you have full access to the folder your saves folder is in and it's not hidden. If nothing helps, start your game as an administrator.

 

Error 16

 

Error 16 occurs because of a file system failure which can occur if you try to overwrite a file in use or  that is corrupt. Saving as with a new name should solve the issue.

 

 

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Crin

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Message 1 of 90 (216,933 Views)

sims 3 no legacy file

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★ Novice

no legacy file. cant fix code error 16,12,14. game wont save  

Message 2 of 90 (216,151 Views)

Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

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Hero (Retired)

Just actually posted something about Error code 12.

 

Can you guarantee me that the solutions will work?

 

Message 3 of 90 (216,377 Views)

Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

Hero

No, I can't garantuee you anything.

 

Do you have a 32 bit operating system or a 64 bit one and how much RAM do you have ?

Good Luck
Crin

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Message 4 of 90 (216,375 Views)

Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

★★★ Novice

Sometimes, is your computer. Some errors, people can help, but some, not. That's why. If your computer is not combative o play The Sims 3, u can't play, is an error (memory sometimes), etc. that's any can help.

 

Byez, Michelle Wink

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Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

★★★★★ Novice

Hai,
I kept getting Error 12, so I went to CurrentGame.sims3 and there is 5 files in there. Should I delete them? 
PS. Tried saving in edit town. Didn't work, but saved copies of the family to library just in case.
PPS. I always use save and quit. Now I feel bad. Confusedmileyindifferent:

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Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

Hero

If your game is running, no, don't delete them. If it's not, yes, delete them.

 

How much RAM do you have and what is your operating system ? 32 bit or 64 bit ?

Good Luck
Crin

Trennlinie

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Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

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★★★★★ Novice

How do I find these? Are they in the xcpt <computername> file? if so.. I have no idea how to find out so here you go...

 

Spoiler

[Build info]
Application: Sims3
BuildTime: 2012-07-30-1733
BuildUser: slcbuilder
BuildHost: SLC1-BUILD123
BuildConfig: Release
BuldVersion: 0.2.0.165
Commandline: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe


[System info]
Computer name: CONSTAPELS-PC
Computer DNS name: constapels-PC
User name: constapels
EA_PLATFORM: Windows on X86
OS name: Windows Vista
OS version number: 6.0.6000
OS service pack:
Debugger present: no
CPU count: 2
Processor type: x86
Processor level: 15
Processor revision: 17155
Memory load: 72%
Total physical memory: 2814 Mb
Available physical memory: 782 Mb
Total page file memory: 5822 Mb
Available page file memory: 2898 Mb
Total virtual memory: 2047 Mb
Free virtual memory: 68 Mb

[Application info]
Language: C++
Compiler: Microsoft Visual C++ compiler, version 1400
App path: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
App version: 0.2.0.165

[Exception info]
date: 2012-09-23
time: 16.29.22
type: ACCESS_VIOLATION writing address 0x00000000
address: 0x73875464 "C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_none_d09154e044272b9a\MSVCR80.dll":0x0001:0x00014464

[Call stack]
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_none_d09154e044272b9a\MSVCR80.dll
0x73875464

C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\TS3W.exe
0x0040ab15


[Stack data]
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0feaa510 | d4 a5 ea 0f 00 00 00 00 70 51 c1 01 d4 a5 ea 0f | ........pQ...... |
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0feaa550 | 6d 00 65 00 6e 00 74 00 73 00 5c 00 45 00 6c 00 | m.e.n.t.s.\.E.l. |
0feaa560 | 65 00 63 00 74 00 72 00 6f 00 6e 00 69 00 63 00 | e.c.t.r.o.n.i.c. |
0feaa570 | 20 00 41 00 72 00 74 00 73 00 5c 00 54 00 68 00 | .A.r.t.s.\.T.h. |
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0feaa590 | 5c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 | \............... |

[Instruction data]
738753e4 => DasmX86Dll.dll not found.

[Registers]
eip: 73875464
eax: 006f004e
ebx: 00000000
ecx: 00000004
edx: 00000002
esi: 12a0c0d0
edi: 00000000
ebp: 0feaa3a8
efl: 00010297
esp: 0feaa3a0

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base 0x74710000 size 0x00004000 entry 0x74711030 "ksuser.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\ksuser.dll"
base 0x75620000 size 0x00007000 entry 0x75621080 "AVRT.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\AVRT.dll"
base 0x74630000 size 0x00021000 entry 0x7463a116 "audioses.dll" "C:\Windows\System32\audioses.dll"
base 0x744e0000 size 0x00066000 entry 0x744f0396 "audioeng.dll" "C:\Windows\System32\audioeng.dll"
base 0x74700000 size 0x00009000 entry 0x74703700 "msacm32.drv" "C:\Windows\system32\msacm32.drv"
base 0x74670000 size 0x00015000 entry 0x74671349 "MSACM32.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll"
base 0x74660000 size 0x00007000 entry 0x74662bf7 "midimap.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll"
base 0x67720000 size 0x00029000 entry 0x6772142c "dssenh.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\dssenh.dll"
base 0x75bf0000 size 0x00032000 entry 0x75bf1531 "ncrypt.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\ncrypt.dll"
base 0x75ba0000 size 0x00044000 entry 0x75baddef "bcrypt.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\bcrypt.dll"
base 0x75720000 size 0x00021000 entry 0x757250be "NTMARTA.DLL" "C:\Windows\system32\NTMARTA.DLL"
base 0x76160000 size 0x00011000 entry 0x76161341 "SAMLIB.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\SAMLIB.dll"
base 0x75780000 size 0x00015000 entry 0x757815e5 "GPAPI.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\GPAPI.dll"
base 0x75d30000 size 0x00039000 entry 0x75d5ba18 "slc.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\slc.dll"
base 0x74b90000 size 0x00019000 entry 0x74b91455 "cryptnet.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\cryptnet.dll"
base 0x75460000 size 0x00014000 entry 0x754614fa "Cabinet.dll" "C:\Windows\system32\Cabinet.dll"

[Register memory]
eax 006f0040 | <ff>ff | .. |
006f0050 | 8b 44 24 0c 8b 4c 24 08 50 51 8b ce e8 af eb fe | .D$..L$.PQ...... |
006f0060 | ff 8b 96 b0 01 00 00 0b 96 b4 01 00 00 c7 | .............. |
esi 12a0c0d0 |<4e>00 6f 00 74 00 4c 00 6f 00 61 00 64 00 65 00 | N.o.t.L.o.a.d.e. |
12a0c0e0 | 64 00 00 00 31 00 00 00 b0 d1 67 42 70 34 08 2e | d...1.....gBp4.. |
ebp 0feaa3a0 | <12>00 00 00 15 ab 40 00 | ......@. |
0feaa3b0 | 00 00 00 00 d0 c0 a0 12 12 00 00 00 c0 e1 46 00 | ..............F. |
0feaa3c0 | cc 2a f1 00 00 00 00 00 | .*...... |

[Extra]
ScriptHeap: 163.96MB/235.69MB (78); 35.62MB


this hunkofjunk is four years old, I think it's 32 bit but I don't know. ._.

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Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

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Sorry for double post, but I have to say I have quite a lot of cc but I'm pretty sure it's all up to date. ._.

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Re: [FAQ] Save Errors (Error 12, 13, 15, 16)

Hero

Can't read your crash logs but it seems you have a 32 bit system and 3 GB of RAM. Error 12 is common on those systems.

Good Luck
Crin

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